Comments on: Good Night, Seattle http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/ America's favorite blog Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:10:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: M.W. Brown http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32888 Fri, 23 May 2008 11:31:29 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32888 You know, I thought about naming my book <em>Good Night, Seattle</em>, but my editors just wouldn't hear of it. "Too limiting" they said. "Think bigger, Margaret", they said. They certainly were right about that one! You know, I thought about naming my book Good Night, Seattle, but my editors just wouldn’t hear of it. “Too limiting” they said. “Think bigger, Margaret”, they said. They certainly were right about that one!

]]> by: Seattle Tammy http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32871 Fri, 23 May 2008 07:06:27 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32871 Thanx you guys! and we'll leave a light on for ya! Come as You Are! Thanx you guys! and we’ll leave a light on for ya!

Come as You Are!

]]> by: David http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32865 Fri, 23 May 2008 05:53:18 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32865 And public best wishes to SeattleDan and Seattle Tammy via the best little website on the internet. Since the only way I can buy books from them from down here on the edge of the Green Swamp is via the internet, I will continue that practice. But I gather from Adam's comment that Jackson Street Books was a premier independent bookstore, so Seattle has clearly suffered a cultural loss. But it also sounds like SeattleDan and Seattle Tammy have moved to a Left Coast Nirvana. And public best wishes to SeattleDan and Seattle Tammy via the best little website on the internet. Since the only way I can buy books from them from down here on the edge of the Green Swamp is via the internet, I will continue that practice. But I gather from Adam’s comment that Jackson Street Books was a premier independent bookstore, so Seattle has clearly suffered a cultural loss. But it also sounds like SeattleDan and Seattle Tammy have moved to a Left Coast Nirvana.

]]> by: David http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32863 Fri, 23 May 2008 05:45:23 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32863 Hillary is following the "all's fair in war and electoral politics" mantra at this point, is desperate to win, and might very well believe that she can win and Obama can't. Beliefs are interesting things. However, more important are what I think are a couple of realities. One is that enough superdelegates will declare for Obama after the final primaries are over for Obama to have a majority of all delegates, and that would be true even with the inclusion of Florida and Michigan (which is in one sense impossible, but will fortunately be a moot point when they are included). The other is that the final three primaries need to matter, especially Montana, because they energize Democrats in those states, increase Democratic registration, and produce new Democratic voters for the general election. At this point, it is about bringing Montana into the D column. And however desperate and ruthless, and even disengenuous, Hillary is at this point, and however angry Clinton supporters might be, that anger will abate if the primary season is allowed to play out and Hillary works hard for the nominee once the nominee is declared. Victory in November hinges on three things: the superdelegates stepping forward as soon as the primaries are over; Hillary giving everything she's got to bringing her supporters back into the D column for the nominee; and Obama being a better campaigner than McCain in the general election. I think all of those things will occur, and I will be celebrating the inauguration of Barack Hussein Obama as the 44th president of the United States. I've even read some analysts who see it this way, but they are not where I got my ideas from. My take came from paying pretty intense attention to presidential electoral politics beginning with my enrollment as a freshman at the University of Florida in 1960. I could be wrong - that goes without saying - and watching for a long time does not insure clarity of vision. In fact, it can have the opposite effect if one just stares. But I don't think I'm wrong this time. That's why I was heartened to find some analysts who have far more creds than do I offering these views. Onward throught the fog, gang, and remember to forget any anger at Hillary once the nominee is chosen. We have a war to win for our country, and it ain't the misbegotten one in Iraq. Hillary is following the “all’s fair in war and electoral politics” mantra at this point, is desperate to win, and might very well believe that she can win and Obama can’t. Beliefs are interesting things.

However, more important are what I think are a couple of realities. One is that enough superdelegates will declare for Obama after the final primaries are over for Obama to have a majority of all delegates, and that would be true even with the inclusion of Florida and Michigan (which is in one sense impossible, but will fortunately be a moot point when they are included). The other is that the final three primaries need to matter, especially Montana, because they energize Democrats in those states, increase Democratic registration, and produce new Democratic voters for the general election. At this point, it is about bringing Montana into the D column.

And however desperate and ruthless, and even disengenuous, Hillary is at this point, and however angry Clinton supporters might be, that anger will abate if the primary season is allowed to play out and Hillary works hard for the nominee once the nominee is declared.

Victory in November hinges on three things: the superdelegates stepping forward as soon as the primaries are over; Hillary giving everything she’s got to bringing her supporters back into the D column for the nominee; and Obama being a better campaigner than McCain in the general election. I think all of those things will occur, and I will be celebrating the inauguration of Barack Hussein Obama as the 44th president of the United States. I’ve even read some analysts who see it this way, but they are not where I got my ideas from. My take came from paying pretty intense attention to presidential electoral politics beginning with my enrollment as a freshman at the University of Florida in 1960. I could be wrong - that goes without saying - and watching for a long time does not insure clarity of vision. In fact, it can have the opposite effect if one just stares. But I don’t think I’m wrong this time. That’s why I was heartened to find some analysts who have far more creds than do I offering these views.

Onward throught the fog, gang, and remember to forget any anger at Hillary once the nominee is chosen. We have a war to win for our country, and it ain’t the misbegotten one in Iraq.

]]> by: Zee Man http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32857 Fri, 23 May 2008 03:30:22 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32857 Thanks, J Jay. It seems I fell for the Hillary line. My bad. Thanks, J Jay. It seems I fell for the Hillary line. My bad.

]]> by: Dee http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32855 Fri, 23 May 2008 02:54:51 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32855 cooper -- still got that TI SR-10 around? And you're not the only one crossing your fingers about the Phoenix. Interesting thing about this landing -- they're not using cushions. This is the first one in a long time to use deceleration to land. Very dicey. cooper — still got that TI SR-10 around?

And you’re not the only one crossing your fingers about the Phoenix. Interesting thing about this landing — they’re not using cushions. This is the first one in a long time to use deceleration to land. Very dicey.

]]> by: Just Jay http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32853 Fri, 23 May 2008 02:17:55 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32853 Zee Man See this <a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/" rel="nofollow">Trailhead blog</a> on Slate. Moving the primary did have strong bipartisan support, although it's not entirely black and white. Jay Zee Man

See this Trailhead blog on Slate.

Moving the primary did have strong bipartisan support, although it’s not entirely black and white.

Jay

]]> by: cooper http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32852 Fri, 23 May 2008 02:17:46 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32852 Off target again. For those cheerful tax payers out there, take heart. Haliburton and Blackwater have not sucked all of your hard earned tax dollars out of the treasury. NASA's Phoenix spacecraft is about to place a new lander on Mars - Sunday afternoon. This time the lander will be in the north polar region where it will dig into the permafrost, analyze the ice and investigate what the Mars climate used to be like. And, of course look for evidence of life. Well, anyway, <em>I</em> found it interesting. Oh, and does anyone out there want to trade a JPL pocket protector for one from NORAD, circa 1965? Off target again. For those cheerful tax payers out there, take heart. Haliburton and Blackwater have not sucked all of your hard earned tax dollars out of the treasury. NASA’s Phoenix spacecraft is about to place a new lander on Mars - Sunday afternoon. This time the lander will be in the north polar region where it will dig into the permafrost, analyze the ice and investigate what the Mars climate used to be like. And, of course look for evidence of life. Well, anyway, I found it interesting. Oh, and does anyone out there want to trade a JPL pocket protector for one from NORAD, circa 1965?

]]> by: Zee Man http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32848 Fri, 23 May 2008 01:12:17 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32848 I agree Becca. The DNC definitely muffed that call. But as I understand it, at least in FL (correct me if I'm wrong), the Republican governor and legislature rammed that new primary date through. This one was out of the Democrats' control. However, Howard Dean did not distinguish himself with his response to the situation. I agree Becca. The DNC definitely muffed that call. But as I understand it, at least in FL (correct me if I’m wrong), the Republican governor and legislature rammed that new primary date through. This one was out of the Democrats’ control. However, Howard Dean did not distinguish himself with his response to the situation.

]]> by: Becca (and Brian) http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32845 Fri, 23 May 2008 00:37:57 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2008/05/21/good-night-seattle/#comment-32845 So....if Dee is so easily able to find those quotes, how come we don't have Obama's campaign or the DNC itself calling her on her statements and publicizing what she said then to point out the hypocrisy or desperation ploy? Someone needs to counteract the damage she's doing in suggesting that the election has been "stolen" from those voters. (Again and for the record: I didn't think their delegate should have been stripped at the beginning. I think who FL and MI would have preferred is actually relevant. But I DEFINITELY don't think you can come back and count them w/out an actual campaign in the states or a complete ballot for them to use) So….if Dee is so easily able to find those quotes, how come we don’t have Obama’s campaign or the DNC itself calling her on her statements and publicizing what she said then to point out the hypocrisy or desperation ploy? Someone needs to counteract the damage she’s doing in suggesting that the election has been “stolen” from those voters.

(Again and for the record: I didn’t think their delegate should have been stripped at the beginning. I think who FL and MI would have preferred is actually relevant. But I DEFINITELY don’t think you can come back and count them w/out an actual campaign in the states or a complete ballot for them to use)

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