I know - this slow-down was as easily predictable as the economic one we’re currently mired in. Kids take work. Television takes work. But more-or-less regular blogging activities will resume shortly.
You’re skeptical. That’s good. Skepticism’s healthy. But so is Baz, and Jeanne, and - to an extent - yours truly. So I’ll be back soon.
Meanwhile, I’d like to thank the world at large for giving me an incredibly slow news week so that I could adjust to having a child. Thanks, planet, that was cool. Basra… well, there’s always one bad apple…*
[*Hopefully my li’l television show will be offering some pretty good commentary on Basra tomorrow. Stay tuned…]
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Dave von Ebers
April 3, 2008 at 3:02 pm
1Adam, I know how the whole blogging-job-kids thing goes. Not so much the “writing for a television show” thing, but the job thing … you bet. So, you have my sympathy.
Fortunately, ours sleep through the night now. Me … not so much.
Cheers!
Jake
April 3, 2008 at 6:21 pm
2I had a bad Apple once. A laptop - the bugger kept freezing up. On the final day of it’s life, it locked up at a particularly crucial moment. I had a solution, though not the most environmentally correct. I took it out to my 1961 Ford F-150 truck (it rumbled to life on the first crank, BTW), got up to 55 mph on the road into town, and tossed that sucker out onto the pavement in front of a semi going the other direction. Instant gratification! Plus, I can still spot pieces of the keyboard each day along the side of the road on my way into work. For insurance purposes, the official version of the story is that by mistake, I left the laptop on the tail gate as I was loading up at the feed store. I got a new laptop from work and all is right with the universe.
Ann
April 3, 2008 at 7:24 pm
3Gosh Jake, you just confessed to insurance fraud ONLINE! This confession will never disappear! You are SO screwed now.
David
April 3, 2008 at 8:43 pm
4Jake was joking, Ann. Right, Jake?
Jake
April 4, 2008 at 3:58 am
5Joking? Absolutely. Complete fabrication. You saw right through that whole story in an instant. You are so smart! I was drunk when I wrote that. Plus, I’m mentally ill - Bi-polar with just a hint of schizophrenia. (What did I do here? Stumble into a blog of lawyers? I tell you, it’s tough lying your way out of a lagoon full of barracudas with blood in the water!) I don’t know what I was thinking. Can I stop now?
Dave von Ebers
April 4, 2008 at 6:06 am
6Now, now Jake … that’s not nice.
Plus, for what it’s worth, my 7 year old iMac is running just fine, thank you very much. (It’s sage, by the way. You don’t see many sage iMacs anymore. Which is a damn shame.)
Jim (OJNTNJ)
April 4, 2008 at 6:19 am
7Dave, it appears you just outed yourself as being barracudaphobic.
Smart man.
Dave von Ebers
April 4, 2008 at 6:50 am
8Barracudaphobic, or a barracudaphile?
Jim (OJNTNJ)
April 4, 2008 at 7:08 am
9Ha! Excellent rebuttal on the cross examination.
Now I’ll just wait for the resident ichthyologists to delurk to school me on how barracudas lovingly tend their young, mate for life, and donate heavily to the “save the krill foundation.”
It's Pat!
April 4, 2008 at 8:19 am
10I ate an apple once. Then I threw the core at a passing semi. Neither the apple or the semi driver was amused.
Aunt Sam
April 4, 2008 at 9:07 am
11It’s Pat, I feel compelled to point out that you’ve just confessed to littering online…
Jim (OJNTNJ)
April 4, 2008 at 11:17 am
12Aunt Sam, is posting bad puns considered littering online? If so, guilty as charged!
Jim (OJNTNJ)
April 4, 2008 at 11:18 am
13Erm, referring to my own puns of course. It’s Pat! is a clever punster.
Aunt Sam
April 4, 2008 at 12:35 pm
14See, I was right to be afraid of being overconfident in my grammatical abilities.
What I should have said, of course, was “you’ve confessed, online, to littering.”
I will leave unstated my opinions on “bad puns” vs. “clever puns”, except to say that we *do* apparently recreate our families of origin wherever we go.
waterfowler
April 4, 2008 at 1:36 pm
15David, I’ve been wanting to know what you think about SCOTUS lately. Specifically, the TX. vs. Mexican case and the 2nd amendment D.C. case. How do they schedule the rulings? It seems they answered one and then said we’ll get back to you on this other one.
David
April 4, 2008 at 7:29 pm
16waterfowler, I’ve taken a break of late from the actions of SCOTUS. Blood pressure and all, you know.
No comment on the following, which was taken from the current Center for American Action Fund’s Progress Report:
IRAQ — CNN’S WARE SAYS SECTARIAN CLEANSING ‘KEY ELEMENT’ IN DROP IN BAGHDAD’S VIOLENCE: This week, CNN Baghdad reporter Michael Ware sat down with The Progress Report to discuss his experiences in Iraq, from where he has reported since before the U.S. invasion in 2003. Talking about the security situation in Baghdad, Ware said, “If anyone is telling you that the cleansing of Baghdad has not contributed to the fall in violence, then they either simply do not understand Baghdad or they are lying to you.” Just this month, surge architect Fred Kagan of the American Enterprise Institute twice rejected the idea that sectarian cleansing had much to do with the reduced violence in Baghdad, calling it a “myth.” Additionally, just last week, former top White House aide Karl Rove said that a long-term U.S. presence in Iraq would positively provide “the projection of American power to maintain stability in a dangerous and difficult part of the world.” But Ware suggested that a limited long-term U.S. presence there “could actually ferment further resentment towards the United States.”
Cotton Mather
April 4, 2008 at 7:31 pm
17I have heard that a new son hath been born unto one of this group. Perhaps my father’s favorite verse from the Bible shall proveth to be most helpful.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21 ESV “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, (19) then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, (20) and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ (21) Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
I know what thou thinketh - “How can such a Bible passage becometh a cornerstone of the religion of peace and brotherhood?” To be perfectly honest with you, I knoweth not. But Father certainly abideth by this rule.
David
April 4, 2008 at 7:32 pm
18I eat the cores, It’s Pat, except not ones thrown in front of semis, or for that matter any but the core of the organic apple I’m eating. Possibility that there was a billy goat in the wood pile, I guess, or maybe just Pan doing something besides playing his pan flute.
David
April 4, 2008 at 7:42 pm
19Yo, Cotton, we were posting at the same time, I a heathen, you a man of God. For sheer barbarity, you can’t really beat the Old Testament. You have kings killing their generals to get said generals wives, you have genocide directed by their god, you have their god drowning everyone but 2×2 in a fit of pique. What a collection of books. They should be done as a holy soap opera. Like the current soaps, there are gems of wisdom even in the seamiest stories of human greed, corruption, avarice, what-have-you, and all with a bad-ass god wreaking havoc in the name of vengeance. And the sci-fi overtones really open up the potential audience. It is, as Faulkner observed, the book of the family record.
SallyMutant
April 5, 2008 at 12:23 am
20Topic Basra: and David who seems epecially Iraq savvy:
My favorite trusted news from Iraq was an Iraqi woman living in Baghdad–Riverbend’s Baghdad Burning blog. She’s a refugee now–a great blogger, but she hasn’t been able to post since October ‘07. I’d love some news from Iraq that was actually from Iraq. Any recommendations on blogs from Iraq?
Topic Baz: Place lips on baby tummy. Say “Ppplllluh” while in contact with baby tummy. Usually fun for baby, always fun for doting adult.
Increase Mather
April 5, 2008 at 4:58 am
21Hath anyone here seeneth mine son, Cotton? I had wished for him to cleaneth the stable house and he disappeareth again! What must I do with such a disobedient son? I shall consult the Holy Word of God.
Pope Benny 16
April 5, 2008 at 3:37 pm
22Excitement is in the air here at the Vatican! On April 15th, we arrive in America! I understand this is not a good day for most Americans. Father Guido tried to explain it to me once, but he was so agitated and spoke much too swiftly for me to follow him. Also, he spoke with words not normally sanctioned for use in the Vatican. I haven’t seen him for a while; I wonder if he’s been ill lately. Guido’s been replaced as head of security by Archbishop Bernard Law. I hope Bernie knows what he is doing. Four out of ten Americans own a gun. Father Anselmo mentioned that the Bush Administration has slashed funding to mental health hospitals and have generally neglected the psychiatric needs of the soldiers returning from duty in the war zones of the Middle East. The Secret Service has warned us of the possibility of suicide bombers and other terrorist plots to kill people in the crowd. Is America an exciting country, or what?
I was pleased to see that I made it onto the cover of the most recent edition of U.S. News and World Report. Franco said he pulled some strings to make that happen. I wish he would have used one of the Papal photographers. This guy shot me from my bad side, plus the mitre I had on weighed a ton and pushed my ears out worse even than George W. Bush’s. The Papal paparazzi have been drilled not to ever do that - Anselmo says both literally and figuratively. That sounds gruesome, but Anselmo says not to worry - they have no feelings. I leave it to him.
Franco says to definitely leave the red slippers behind in favor of the brown Gucci loafers he bought for me last week and tells me to be mentally prepared to witness Bush talking with his mouth full. And try not to be surprised if he comes up behind me and gives me a Dutch Rub. He’s quite the joker, Franco says.
David
April 5, 2008 at 4:23 pm
23SallyMutant,
I was sickened when Riverbend had to leave her native country because the United States had chosen to reduce it to an utterly failed state, with its capital city in ruins, one of the most dangerous cities on the planet, with an idiot compound for the United States and our petro overlords as its defining epicenter behind those huge concrete barricades, the Bremer walls (I am trying to be nice - these are the kindest things I have to say about this rolling war crime into which this administration has thrust a lot of very decent, well-intentioned America military personal, the other major crime besides the fact that we started this war without justification simply because the neocons wanted to, and could).
Here are two excellent sites. On Dahr Jamail’s website, you can click on to receive his dispatches (which he gets from a trusted Iraqi now, because it is has become too dangerous in Baghdad). Juan Cole is a professor at the University of Michigan.
http://dahrjamailiraq.com/
http://www.juancole.com/
David
April 5, 2008 at 5:22 pm
24And just in case anyone out there still thinks there is any reason whatsoever to have any respect for the MSM:
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/04/05/8103/
gillian
April 5, 2008 at 6:41 pm
25Should you receive a celebratory fruit basket from BillO, you probably shouldn’t eat the fruit.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/04/05/dear-billo-this-is-what-winni ng-a-peabody-award-actually-looks-like/
Boomer
April 5, 2008 at 7:14 pm
26Adam, you know what your online store could really use? T-shirts, coffee mugs, tote bags, and some really incisive election year bumper stickers. In your spare time, of course.
SallyMutant
April 6, 2008 at 1:20 am
27Thank you, David, for the links. Good to know Riverbend is missed. Juan Cole is great, he’s one of the links on her page, plus, some NPR shows have actually featured him. I’ll try the darjamailiraq link one asap.
What’s so affecting is some of her other fave links include Dilbert and the Onion, just like any netsurfergirl.
Her post descibing opening emails received after a friend was killed on his way to help his mom tear me up– poems about the beauties of the city of Baghdad and cute kitty photos. Just what young people blog and email everywhere on earth–poetry and cute. And he was a nice modern young guy on his way to help his mom.
And David, why try to be nice about imperialism and the 1000 year reich green zone? It’s imperialism. (But it’s good to be civil–good on ya.)
What a sad comment I post! After reading this, felberinos, you can cheer up by getting to an infant or pet tummy, planting your lips and going “puuuuu.” Hmmm, “puuuuh” may even be something to do with a spouse. I’m off. . .
Zee Man
April 6, 2008 at 5:57 am
28As a person teetering on the edge for much of my adult life (probably a good thing I’m not one of the 4 in 10 Americans packing heat, huh Benny?), I have been drawn to the music of Phillip Glass. Yesterday Crooks and Liars featured one of his compositions on “The Late Night Music Club”. It’s a short - 3 minute plus - little snippet combining music and history (I learned something new about Eadweard Muybridge), so if you’ve got a moment, you may want to have a look. An additional nugget; he’s Ira’s uncle or somehow related. Besides it’s Sunday morning - you’ve already had sex, so what else are you going to do today?
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/04/05/late-night-music-club-with-ph ilip-glass/
just plain Jack
April 6, 2008 at 6:12 am
29Who is it - Gillian? - who has been in charge of linkings to Toles? Looks like it’s up to me today. Start here and move forward to the present. It was a good week for Toles.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/cartoonsandvideos/toles_ main.html?name=Toles&date=03272008&type=c
just plain Jack
April 6, 2008 at 6:20 am
30Another one bites the dust…
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0622681720080406
Dee
April 6, 2008 at 10:20 am
31Slap my face, but my first thought upon hearing Heston died was “Can we pry his gun loose now?”
Boomer
April 6, 2008 at 11:00 am
32Good one, dee. I’m just glad he didn’t go down in a hail of gunfire. Think of what Michael Moore would do with that!
Chris Harlan
April 6, 2008 at 12:44 pm
33I found oil!
Watching the marvelous “There Will Be Blood” led me to pick up–or rather, listen to–a copy of Upton Sinclair’s equally marvelous “Oil!” For people who haven’t read it, the book has about as much to do with the movie as “The Wild Bunch” has to do with, say, a random Zane Grey novel. There are a few similarities, but to say one is a version of the other is not really so.
The book focuses on class distinction, labor relations, and political corruption with Teapot Dome as the denouement. Reading it, I got a startling sense of how much has changed and how little, what we have gained, and how much we have to loose. Plus, it is gist a really good read, er, uh, listen.
Franklin
April 6, 2008 at 1:03 pm
34This has been fun, but now I have to go out and cut the grass. Oops! I’m sorry “It’s Pat!”, gillian, nato, Kjell. The snow will melt one day in your yard. It really will happen (in early July! Snicker!).
Murray
April 6, 2008 at 1:45 pm
35Dee, where else but America can a feeble man with with a fatal degenerative brain disease, before a crowd, hold a gun above his head and make this declaration.
If only he’d shot off a few rounds at the gathering to make his point.
Murray
April 6, 2008 at 1:49 pm
36Franklin, by then you will be sweltering in unbearable, life sucking heat.
I’ll take the cool.
Cool!
Franklin
April 6, 2008 at 2:35 pm
37Well, I hope you know I was going for “bad karma” with that last post. Apologies to the proto Canadians to our north. I was hoping that by being snarky, I could dig the lawnmower out of the garage, go through the motions of a minor tune-up, pull and pull and pull and pull on the starter rope and it just wouldn’t crank. And I’d get points with the little lady for trying, anyway. To my complete horror, the lawnmower cranked. (Note to self, use even cheaper off-brand gasoline this year.) I really don’t know why I was was being such a dick; we can still get a late snow up here in the hills of Kentucky. Maybe I’ll wind up having bad karma after all and we’ll get 3 more mid-April blizzards. Maybe I’ll stop now.
cooper
April 6, 2008 at 2:54 pm
38Murray, that’s a great idea. Mr. Heston could have squeezed off a few rounds and everyone else in the auditorium could have slapped leather and emptied their clips into the ceiling. Much hilarity would ensue and a new tradition would be born. Better they use their treasure re-doing roofs in their meeting halls all across the country than buying off our representatives with “campaign contributions”.
Good luck to Tony. I’m penciled in to do the phone bank on April 28 for Harry Taylor, one of our local good guys.
Dirk's Diary
April 6, 2008 at 4:09 pm
394-06-2008
Dear Diary,
I have to admit flying beignets in overnight from New Orleans was breaking the bank. Also, Mildred began commenting that, while they were insubstantial and sweet (much like New Orleans), she really would prefer them to be made from whole grain wheat flour and bran with bits of walnuts and carrots. The chef in N.O. had what I believe down south is called a “conniption fit”. So that was the deal breaker - trying to mess with their handed-down and revered recipes. It’s just as well. I am now getting up at 4:00 AM each workday morning and baking her a dozen bran muffins, using her favorite recipe and bringing them into the office. She seems to be happy with life and work, so I guess it’s worth getting up so early and all the extra work. I have started nodding off after lunch for several hours, but luckily no one has noticed yet.
The Pope is coming to Washington in a couple of weeks. That’s going to be interesting. Sniper nests, mortar emplacements, and metal detectors are starting to spring up all around DC. More on this later.
Dirk
Murray
April 6, 2008 at 4:24 pm
40Coop,
I was envisioning that he would take out a few of the faithful. (The more the better).
I spent this morning with Tony photographing him clearing trails on Blue Knob (PA’s second highest mountain, where Tony lives) with other volunteers, mostly from REI. He is very much involved with his campaign and things are going as well as they can at this point.
Thanks for your help.
I won’t forget you tenting in the our campground during a goddamn hurricane. Incredibly brave (or insane).
David
April 6, 2008 at 5:34 pm
41Remember that media-favorite picture of Saddam standing on the balcony in front of a rapt crowd ripping off a couple of rounds?
So a sad farewell to the actor, and just sadness over the actor’s political mindset.
Franklin,
Which Kentucky hills? I have relatives from Beattyville to Hazard, with emigrant lines running to Covington, Cincinnati, and the one that led my mother to Florida. We’re talking Spencers, Kiddes, Kings, Bowmans, Baumgartens - adopted name of a great grandfather who was a Virginia Alexander, but ran away from his family’s plantation when his father sold his best boyhood friend, on of the slaves. He never went or looked back, best I can determine. I think the Baumgartens were Jewish, and lived in a small community of Jews somewhere in those Kentucky hills. They took him in. He was about twelve, I think. My grandmother, his daughter, was about 4-10, and very much like that shotgun - small (although stout), and a commanding presence. She was a Hardshell Baptist preacher, and absolutely believed she’d been called by God to preach. She did not, however, believe women could be ministers, only preachers. Hardshell Baptists in general, unlike her congregation, did not share her belief about women being called to preach. She left the Hardshells, went through two or three other similar denominations, then concluded the only answer was to hold services in her home. Wish she could have lived long enough to figure out what it was about the Bible that troubled her. In her words: “There’s a serpent in this Bible.”
SeattleDan
April 6, 2008 at 5:38 pm
42For a different take, I will honor Heston for his younger, progressive self, when he marched with MLK, and tried to make a difference. Like those others who move Left to Right, he did so whole-heartedly, and became a complete reactionary, and that I do not honor. (Look at the careers of actors like Lloyd Bridges or Sterling Hayden who had been party members, got outed, repudiated their previous stances without becoming jerks about it and remained progressive in their politics.)
As an actor, he was over-rated. He wasn’t in the same class as his contemporary’s like Newman, Brando or Clift. He was better in the roles in smaller films, like “Touch of Evil”, where he received good direction and acted well. Mind you, I like Ben-Hur as a good epic film and he was fine in it. But he was not the world’s greatest actor.
David
April 6, 2008 at 7:07 pm
43A general who called the occupation of Iraq the disaster that it is and the surge the nonsense that it is:
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/04/06/8114/
Good points about Heston, SeattleDan, and he should be remembered for marching with King. At that time, it was an act of courage, and the last thing in the world a right winger would do. Regardless of Heston’s later falling off the cliff into the abyss of reactionaryism, he was one more high-profile person who did a very good and worthy thing for the cause of civil rights. I think perhaps I’ll just focus on that as my final thought regarding Charlton Heston. Thanks.
cooper
April 6, 2008 at 7:45 pm
44David, this is too weird. I’m related to the Bumgarner family from Alexander County (Taylorsville) in the Brushy Mountains of North Carolina. Bumgarners are Baumgartners who have been in country for 250 years. Bumgarner is much easier to say with a southern accent, so a couple of letters were lopped off somewhere along the line. Being a good German name, it describes the profession of the family, in this case, Baum (tree) gartner (gardener). So originally we worked in the orchards of Alsace Lorraine, in what was then Germany. We got our butts kicked off our land in the mid 1700’s, back when (I know you’ll find this hard to believe, but) Frenchmen knew how to fight. We wound up in America, so a special fondness for the French endures in our family, even to this day.
SallyMutant
April 6, 2008 at 11:48 pm
45Knock, knock. Who’s there: Phillip Glass. Phillip Glass Who? Phillip Glass, Phillip Glass, Phillip Glass, Phillip Glass, Phillip Glass. . .
I love Phillip Glass, so don’t see this Knock Knock as a put-down–in fact, you have to be somewhat of a fan to enjoy the reference to his hypnotic repetitions. There’s only one person where I work who would even get the joke, and I told it to him about 4 years ago. I HAD to tell it again. Fanatical Apathy–Land of Opportunity!
cooper
April 7, 2008 at 4:58 am
46Zee Man/SallyMutant, I too am a fan of Phillip Glass. Good joke Sally, BTW - it does pretty much sum up his musical style. I find his music somewhat hypnotic and it often takes me out of the moment. You’re obviously a woman of exquisite taste.
Zee Man - Related to Ira Glass, huh? That’s interesting.
It's Pat!
April 7, 2008 at 1:26 pm
47Geez, I got it and I live in Minne-snow-ta. Up nort’ got over twenty inches this weekend.
Meanwhile, a squirrel has figured out how to jump on to a bird feeder that I have tried to position so’s that couldn’t happen. Seems remarkably like Mark Penn.
David
April 7, 2008 at 4:03 pm
48OK, here we go, cooper. My family has always loved trees. They are about as high on our list as anything in creation. We coulda been Druids - some of our ancestors probably were. One of my colleagues at L-SCC speculated, based on some of my antics, that I was probably a Pict, which would mean, of course, running mostly naked through the forest painted mostly blue, something of which I am perfectly capable even to this day.
My grandmother not only loved trees, when some bozo bought the 50 acres of as yet undeveloped land on the other side of Seminole Avenue when I was a young kid and proceeded to bulldoze all the pines (they were very tall longleaf southern yellow pines, many of them at least 50-75 years old, some probably 100 years old) so he could plant some kind of oddity citrus grove in something he dubbed Bonita Groves (which never did well - the asshole had no idea what he was doing), Grandma said to me that she could hear the trees crying out. This was well before the talking-to-plants movement.
I’m still looking for clarification on the spelling of Baumgarten, because I thought I remembered it being pronounced Baumgartner when I was a kid. Grandma’s family Bible burned in an uncle’s house fire, and there aren’t much in the way of birth certificates once you get a couple of generations back - in my family, a couple of generations is like a hundred years.
If your roots are in the Appalachians, you are damned near guaranteed to be related, often much more closely, and in multiples fashion, than might be considered seemly. Thank god it takes only one generation of re-mixing the genes with those from another pool to brighten minds right back up.
Boomer
April 7, 2008 at 6:17 pm
49MSNBC and Keith Olbermann certainly have been beating the irony drum tonight. Apparently John McCain was giving a speech in front of a VFW gathering this morning and one of the networks was feeding it live on national TV. He was going on about how much better life in Iraq is since the surge. McCain was reading through his delusional laundry list of improvements and droning on about life returning to normal in Iraq, when the network broke into his speech with a news flash that 4 mortars had just landed in the Green Zone in Baghdad. I simply adore irony.
Cotton Mather
April 7, 2008 at 6:42 pm
50I hath heard through the grapevine that, verily, Pops is steamed at me and looketh for blood. As a precaution, I did hire Ethan Braun (for the exorbitant amount of 3 pence) to push his wheelbarrow throughout the immediate and surrounding neighborhoods to collect all stones of hurling size and weight and to dumpeth them into Boston Harbor. Solely as a precaution, you understand.
hedera
April 7, 2008 at 8:09 pm
51Dee, I’m glad to know I wasn’t the only one. My version was, “Oh, Charlton Heston died. Can we get his gun back now?”
hedera
April 7, 2008 at 8:18 pm
52Interesting clip. The only other Phillip Glass I’ve ever heard came from a different period, where his music consisted of jagged dissonant chords separated by extended periods of silence. This was actually quite pretty, if repetitive repetitive repetitive repetitive
The factoid about Eadweard Muybridge was new to me also.
gillian
April 8, 2008 at 5:21 pm
53How about a change of pace this week (since Tom Tomorrow is rather lame this time around)?
http://www.salon.com/comics/opus/2008/04/06/opus/index.html
Jim (OJNTNJ)
April 9, 2008 at 6:51 am
54Thanks for the link gillian. I adore Opus, and am grateful to Berkeley Breathed for resurrecting my favorite comic strip character.
David
April 9, 2008 at 7:07 pm
55Holy shit, gillian - lameness exiled with that one.
ditto to Acronym Jim’s comment.
Ann
April 10, 2008 at 10:21 am
56So…what’s the story with Obama’s “special” relationship with Lieberman? How can he support that weasel?
Jim (OJNTNJ)
April 10, 2008 at 11:50 am
57Ann, I’m not sure what “special” relationship you are talking about. If you could provide a link to or describe a a specific incident, I would be interested in knowing about it.
At this point, all I know about the relationship between the two is that Senator Obama named Lieberman as his mentor when he was first elected to the Senate in 2004. He then initially supported Lieberman in Lieberman’s re-election campaign, but then eventually ended up endorsing Lamont instead after Lieberman’s defection from the Democratic Party (and at a time when Lieberman held a double-digit lead over Lamont - according to CBS News - October 27, 2006).
Is this the “special” relationship you’re referencing? Cause if it is, Obama is not the only person in Congress or in the voting public to have learned his or her lesson about Lieberman.
Ann
April 10, 2008 at 1:45 pm
58Thanks–that’s the story I wanted info about. I was told that he campaigned for/supported Lieberman after the latter’s defection, and that just didn’t sound right.
Jim (OJNTNJ)
April 10, 2008 at 2:07 pm
59You’re welcome Ann. Although I do have to admit that I was expecting something lascivious, such as an adulterous relationship between Obaman, Lieberman, and Caesar from your fan club.
Caesar, if your out there, I think I may have finally found a perfect match. He’s a butcher. He’s a good man….a little old, but a good man. Call me bubbula, and I’ll introduce you.
Jim (OJNTNJ)
April 10, 2008 at 2:08 pm
60Ahem…Obama, not Obaman. Apparently, I’ve been watching to much Countdown.