JENA, La. - A judge on Friday denied a request to release a teenager whose arrest in the beating of a white classmate sparked this week’s civil rights protest in Louisiana. Mychal Bell’s request to be freed while an appeal is being reviewed was rejected at a juvenile court hearing, effectively denying him any chance at immediate bail, a person familiar with the case told The Associated Press.
All across the country, people are wringing their hands over these six kids. What can we possibly do? Who can save these kids? That’s the problem with unequal applications of justice - they are still applications of justice. So it’s hard to stop ‘em once they’ve gotten started.
If only there was someone who could cut through this. Some mechanism in our country that would help us move forward and begin to fix things. Some way to help a bleeding nation begin to mend. Is the blind mechanism of justice really so final? Is there nothing that can be done?

Nah, nothing comes to mind. Guess we’ll have to suffer through this one. What was I thinking?





27 comments
Boomer
September 21, 2007 at 3:58 pm
1This whole issue is just too stupid. Why are we as a country going through this exercise again? The rally and march in Jenna yesterday sure takes this boomer back 40 years or so to an similarly unhappy time. Just without fire hoses or attack German Shepherds this time. You think a pardon by W is in the works? No?
Dave von Ebers
September 21, 2007 at 4:59 pm
2Adam, this is the most succinct comment I’ve read today on this depressing saga.
As an aside, I can only imagine how I would have reacted if I were an African American teenager in Louisiana and a bunch of white kids started hanging nooses on the school playground. Would I have kicked some ass? No, only because I wouldn’t be able to, physically. Would I have tried and gotten my ass kicked in the process? Without a doubt.
Hard to imagine anything more provocative than nooses, swastikas and crap like that. That shit’s like “fighting words” on steroids … Not that I’m justifying violence. But really, what would you expect black kids, or any kids, really, to do in the face of that kind of provocation?
hedera
September 21, 2007 at 7:46 pm
3The more questions you ask about this whole mess, the worse it gets. Should six black kids beat up a single white kid, even given massive provocation? I don’t think Martin Luther King Jr. would say so. But: should that white kid have been allowed to get away with hanging nooses on a tree just because some black kids sat under it, and have the incident dismissed (by his parents, and the school authorities) as “just a prank”?? I don’t think so on that either.
And no black kids actually sat under the tree. One black kid asked whether they’d be allowed to sit under the tree, and was told yes. Next day, the nooses appeared. (Note: these details are from an AP summary of the case, published today in the San Francisco Chronicle.)
For that matter, how come the school allowed the existence of a tree which only white kids were allowed to sit under? If it had been a drinking fountain or a restroom that only white kids were allowed to use, the NAACP and the national press would have gone off like a rocket.
In any case, since the white kid who was beaten up was able to attend a school function later that night - with a “swollen and bloodied” face that must have made him the entire center of attention - I think the original charge of attempted murder, and trial as an adult for a kid who was 16 when the incident happened, was waaay out of line. The final charge was aggravated second-degree battery (whatever THAT is - in a murder case, I think “second degree” means intent but no premeditation), and the conviction was just thrown out by the appeals court on the grounds that defendant couldn’t be tried as an adult. Can there possibly be some intelligence there?? There can’t be too much, because yet another judge (presumably not on the appeals court) has just denied bail for this dangerous 17 year old felon.
I’ve read a couple of resentful quotes from residents of Jena who claim “we’re not really like that” and “we all get along.” If so, folks - how come nobody tried to defuse this whole mess by talking through the issues, back when the nooses were hung, before the fists started flying? Because you all thought it was “just a prank”??
hedera
September 21, 2007 at 7:55 pm
4Actually, Mychal Bell does have a rap sheet, including battery and property damage. But my point about talking things out before the fighting started still stands.
Dave von Ebers
September 22, 2007 at 8:22 am
5Hedera, I wholeheartedly agree, and I’m not advocating or excusing violence. I can, however, sympathize with the level of emotion that would lead to striking out.
So, there are several different issues here — how the incident should have been handled from the get-go, how the black kids should have addressed it, what consequences there should have been for the noose incident, etc.
But, from a criminal law perspective, it’s long been the case that a person who incites someone to violence is guilty of an offense, just like the person who commits the act of violence. So, the kids involved in hanging the nooses are, in fact, criminally responsible for the outcome. That is to say, if anyone should have been charged with a crime in the first place. Maybe the best way to deal with all aspects of this — the noose incident and the resulting violence — would have been through the school disciplinary process, through community meetings and the like, without involving the criminal justice system.
The criminal justice system is a blunt instrument; it isn’t meant to solve deep-seated social problems. It’s primary function is to enforce the law and mete out penalties. This is a situation that requires hard work, not easy solutions; it requires finesse and patience and a long term plan to ease racial tensions and bring this community into the 21st century. The criminal justice system is uniquely ill-equipped to do that. It’s like the old adage, “When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.”
In the end, the grownups blew it in Jena. To charge any of these kids as adults because they acted like teenagers — that is, they acted stupidly, violently, immaturely, like teenagers are apt to do — is patently absurd. What the “authorities” did was take the easy way out: Call the cops, press charges, look for retribution.
None of which solves a damn thing.
Yeah, violence is stupid and wrong. But, the people involved were teenagers. I can only speak for myself, but “stupid and wrong” pretty much sums up my teenage years.
David
September 22, 2007 at 8:30 am
6Adam, you do not how to cut to the chase without wasting words.
And then there was the police department of Gretna, Louisiana, which refused to allow blacks to walk across the bridge from New Orleans to escape the rising floodwaters, as Gretna asserted its rights as the ultimate American gated township.
While it is true that violence only begets more violence, and that six black kids beating up a white kid was the dumbest thing the black kids could do, not to mention a violent felony, it is probably pointless to demand wisdom of black kids being taunted with nooses this long after the end of apartheid in the South, especially given the utter lack of wisdom on the part of the white adults, essentially the sole arbiters of authority, in Jena, Louisiana. whose sole purpose was not the pursuit of justice but the time-honored practice of whites putting blacks in their place, or universally demographic A putting demographic B in its place.
And yeah, people of Jena, you really are like that, just as way too many of those Southern Baptists in the South of my youth really were like that.
Harold
September 22, 2007 at 4:35 pm
7I have to confess that I have followed this story almost not at all. Where I come from a noose is often a callback to Wilford Brimley’s “I don’t wanna be in here anymore” scene from John Carpenter’s The Thing - Northeastern Pennsylvania never had much of a tradition of lynchings that I’m aware of. I have a feeling that many of the thousands (tens of thousands?) of protesters in this case are not much better-informed than I am.
I do wish that some of those busloads of protesters could have found their way to Georgia to demand the release of Genarlow Wilson who is currently imprisoned for 10 years for having received a blowjob from an underage girl while he was also underage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson_v._State_of_Georgia
cooper
September 23, 2007 at 6:10 am
8Okay, sports fans, it’s the weekend, relax, you’ve got a few minutes to spent watching a clip from our buddy’s show. Sit back and enjoy.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/09/23/real-time-overtime-on-oj-iraq -and-democratic-messaging/
cooper
September 23, 2007 at 8:11 am
9Ooooh, siobhan - The gauntlet has been thrown down.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/09/22/slate-v-takes-romney-campaign -ad-challenge-priceless/
David
September 23, 2007 at 9:24 am
10Boy, has it. Besides, I’ve been missing the irreplaceable siobhan. Back me up here, waterfowler.
Adam Felber
September 23, 2007 at 11:11 am
11Thanks for that, cooper - the OJ rule was in fact mine.
gillian
September 23, 2007 at 12:35 pm
12I wonder what his last words were.
Boomer
September 23, 2007 at 2:48 pm
13Adam, if the “cut and run” line was yours, I’ll have to spend most of my remaining days bowing in your general direction - which should actually help my waistline, come to think of it.
cooper
September 23, 2007 at 3:24 pm
14Hey guys. I was scrolling through the posts at Jesus’ General - http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/ -a while ago and there were some photos with one of the articles. I had to stop and back up, because one of them looked like our own SeattleTammy - with Meg Tilley, who, BTW, is one of my favorite people to look at. Of course, it was Tammy. Now I’m going to have to copy that picture and PhotoShop myself in (at age thirty five, when there were still wisps of blond hair up top) between those two lovely ladies, print it, frame it, and then make up some kind of bullshit story about how we met and the wonderful dining, dancing and drinking that went down on that memorable night. I can do that.
another Matt
September 23, 2007 at 7:08 pm
15A moment of silence for the great Marcel . . .
SeattleTammy
September 23, 2007 at 8:49 pm
16Ah, cooper, you remmeber the night we twirled beneath the stars, you - me - Meg… So lovely, and you dip girls so safely! I knew you wouldn’t drop me on my butt in the middle of the dance floor!
We do Bookreports over there on Saturdays. didn’t want to blog-ho here, but there is a lot of cross over folks between the two places.
Aren’tcha glad Dave v E is commenting here? If for nothing else than for Ann and I to fight over him!
Or, maybe it’s his brilliant incisive wit. yeah, that’s it.
gillian
September 24, 2007 at 2:34 am
17I, personally, do not think kittens are cute, but cats certainly are attracted to me. Or maybe it’s the food I put out for them. Anyways - http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/09/23/open-thread-591/
waterfowler
September 24, 2007 at 2:34 am
18Backing you up David, where’s Siobhan? The hummingbirds are swarming…
Y’all mistreated my Ag’s last week, but @ least the Texans made a showing against Peyton.
David
September 24, 2007 at 7:02 am
19I think it’s punishment for dumping R.C. Slocum (I liked his name), waterfowler. My Gators almost got abused by Ole Miss, which has at least one linebacker who was an 18-wheeler in a previous life.
So where are you, siobhan? The sandhill cranes also want to know.
Pope Benny 16
September 24, 2007 at 3:46 pm
20I am sooooo sick of politics! Yet I seem to spend my life these days doing the backstroke through that fetid, steaming brew. Well, take this past Friday, for instance. The state-approved Catholic bishop of Beijing, Li Shan, was installed “to applause from parishioners in a tightly orchestrated ceremony that was subsequently endorsed by the Vatican”. Well, maybe, but not by me. The first I knew of it was the story in today’s L’Osservatore Romano.
A little background, vielleicht? China and The Vatican have not had diplomatic relations since 1951. Several decades after the Cultural Revolution, China sort of, kind of allowed the Catholic Church to get a toe hold again on the mainland. Of course, they have to approve everything done by the Church (and also steal about 60% of the offerings, right off the top. Schweinhunde!!) A double secret Catholic Church has since sprung up, with loyalties to the Vatican rather than the State - and there is the rub.
The story in L’Osservatore pointed out the fine line we walk. Different factions in the Holy See fall on different sides of the issue. I’m sure someone here gave that story to the paper, using it as a trial balloon to see who would complain and who would go along. I’ve been missing my magic, holy ring; the one I use to seal, with wax, the envelopes of official Vatican business. I know I had it with me on vacation, but then it disappeared about the time that Father Guido came by for my dirty laundry. I wonder if I left it in my vestments. I’ll have to ask Father Guido when he comes back from his sabbatical to Ibiza, where he’s gone to personally observe the beachwear of the faithful and report back to Cardinal Law with any deviant fashion statements. Yeah, like Bernie would know deviant and then actually do something about it…!
Zee Man
September 25, 2007 at 3:29 am
21Four minutes well spent.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/09/24/mid-day-open-thread-12/
Murray
September 25, 2007 at 5:41 am
22Last year I was subbing in PE and one redneck student called a black student “a dumb nigger”. Of course there could be only one response to that. I got between them before there was any damage.
To me they were both equally guilty. I sort of feel the same way about the Jena 6. It is understandable how the black community can be outraged about the inequality of punishment.
At least here the black student got a suspension for fighting and not accused of attempted murder.
gillian
September 25, 2007 at 2:42 pm
23This week, in a rare and serendipitous meeting, Sparky gets down with Greenspan.
http://www.workingassetsblog.com/2007/09/booksigning_today_by_alan_gre e.html
Boomer
September 26, 2007 at 2:53 am
24Anyone catch Bush’s speech at the UN yesterday? Do you think he referred to the human rights situation in “Burma” because he can’t consistently pronounce “Myanmar” correctly (or even close)? Countdown with Keith Olbermann reported that Bush’s actual speech was posted on the UN website before he gave it and all the big words were spelled phonetically. The White House has since pulled it down. Strange times we live in.
hedera
September 26, 2007 at 3:24 pm
25I want to know what woke Bush up and made him notice Myanmar all of a sudden. This has been going on for twenty years, as near as dammit. Aung San Suu Kyi has been either in jail or under house arrest since she won the goddam election. And NOW he decides it’s an outrage??
David
September 26, 2007 at 8:07 pm
26Damned good question, hedera.
dee
September 27, 2007 at 5:55 am
27My understanding is that Myanmar is the new name given by the military coup in 1988, but our state department (and the Burmese opposition) has never recognized that name.
As far why Bush woke up — well, hell, He’s not alone in his sleepiness. The rest of the world hadn’t really paid any attention, either, until the monks shamed us all.