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		<title>by: Murray</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/06/guilty-my-aspen/#comment-23906</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You have to think that being a pannelist on WWDTM is a tough job. You need to have a very quick wit, deliver it perfectly the first time and not step on other's lines. 

Adam sets a very high bar. Not being AS good doesn't mean that you aren't good. All those years of improv have paid off.</description>
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<p>Adam sets a very high bar. Not being AS good doesn&#8217;t mean that you aren&#8217;t good. All those years of improv have paid off.
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		<title>by: David</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/06/guilty-my-aspen/#comment-23883</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Fanny released my rant.  Back on current topic:  add my vote in support of Tom Bodett, for same reason as Maximum Bob.

Speaking of Bush (I clearly can't help myself), they are talking about the value of dung beetles on RFD TV.  Can we introduce a robust dung beetle population in the White House?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fanny released my rant.  Back on current topic:  add my vote in support of Tom Bodett, for same reason as Maximum Bob.</p>
<p>Speaking of Bush (I clearly can&#8217;t help myself), they are talking about the value of dung beetles on RFD TV.  Can we introduce a robust dung beetle population in the White House?
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		<title>by: Maximum Bob</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/06/guilty-my-aspen/#comment-23871</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I like Tom Bodett.  He tends toward the droll, which works for me.

He also holds the distinction of having provided the setup for the funniest caller line in the history of the show.  During a call-in segment, the movie &lt;i&gt;Brokeback Mountain&lt;/i&gt; was mentioned, and Bodett said, apropos of I don't remember what, "Well, you kind of knew those guys weren't going up to that mountain just for the fishing."  To which the caller responded, "Well, fly fishing, maybe."  

The panel broke up, the audience broke up, and the earth tilted ever so slightly on its axis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Tom Bodett.  He tends toward the droll, which works for me.</p>
<p>He also holds the distinction of having provided the setup for the funniest caller line in the history of the show.  During a call-in segment, the movie <i>Brokeback Mountain</i> was mentioned, and Bodett said, apropos of I don&#8217;t remember what, &#8220;Well, you kind of knew those guys weren&#8217;t going up to that mountain just for the fishing.&#8221;  To which the caller responded, &#8220;Well, fly fishing, maybe.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The panel broke up, the audience broke up, and the earth tilted ever so slightly on its axis.
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		<title>by: cooper</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/06/guilty-my-aspen/#comment-23867</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I have to agree with siobhan. Although Tom may have started off fairly unremarkable, he has definitely come up to speed &#38; earned his rightful place on the panel.  I've very much enjoyed his quick wit and his quirky brand of humor. If we can't have Adam every week, it's good to have people like Tom waiting in the wings. SGFDV, I've only been to one taping. The acoustics in that hall were not optimal and though Paula's voice certainly is irrepressible, I found out when I listened to the same program on the radio, that I hadn't caught a lot of what Kyrie and Mo had said. They got in some great zingers that I missed when I was in the audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with siobhan. Although Tom may have started off fairly unremarkable, he has definitely come up to speed &amp; earned his rightful place on the panel.  I&#8217;ve very much enjoyed his quick wit and his quirky brand of humor. If we can&#8217;t have Adam every week, it&#8217;s good to have people like Tom waiting in the wings. SGFDV, I&#8217;ve only been to one taping. The acoustics in that hall were not optimal and though Paula&#8217;s voice certainly is irrepressible, I found out when I listened to the same program on the radio, that I hadn&#8217;t caught a lot of what Kyrie and Mo had said. They got in some great zingers that I missed when I was in the audience.
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		<title>by: siobhan</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/06/guilty-my-aspen/#comment-23865</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sorry, must disagree with you about Tom Bodett.  I have very much enjoyed him since he started on the show.  Everyone is entitled to an off-night, of course; maybe last night was his.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, must disagree with you about Tom Bodett.  I have very much enjoyed him since he started on the show.  Everyone is entitled to an off-night, of course; maybe last night was his.
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		<title>by: SomeGuyFromDownValley</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/06/guilty-my-aspen/#comment-23864</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Adam,

My wife talked me into going to the show last night.  You are the only funny one in the troop.  Oh, and please lose Bodett.  Trust me on this one.  That guy is flatter than Anne Coulter's pancakes.  I suppose you already knew that, though.

I hope that the joke that Sagal referred to as "bestiality" makes it into the show.  That there was some funnay stuff!

Carry on, and thanks for the laughs.

--SomeGuyFromDownValley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,</p>
<p>My wife talked me into going to the show last night.  You are the only funny one in the troop.  Oh, and please lose Bodett.  Trust me on this one.  That guy is flatter than Anne Coulter&#8217;s pancakes.  I suppose you already knew that, though.</p>
<p>I hope that the joke that Sagal referred to as &#8220;bestiality&#8221; makes it into the show.  That there was some funnay stuff!</p>
<p>Carry on, and thanks for the laughs.</p>
<p>&#8211;SomeGuyFromDownValley
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		<title>by: David</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/06/guilty-my-aspen/#comment-23863</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Fanny apparently ate my last comment.  I think that's good.  My keyboard became possessed.  

What appears to be a nesting pair of sandhills has apparently moved into the small pasture right next door, siobhan.  Love the way they just look at me like Who are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fanny apparently ate my last comment.  I think that&#8217;s good.  My keyboard became possessed.  </p>
<p>What appears to be a nesting pair of sandhills has apparently moved into the small pasture right next door, siobhan.  Love the way they just look at me like Who are you?
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		<title>by: SeattleDan</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/06/guilty-my-aspen/#comment-23861</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 04:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>hedera and siobhan, if I lived in the Bay Area, I'd be all over the "Porgy and Bess" presentation. Love Gershwin, and love Porgy. Sounds great. Anyone see the opera presentation on PBS a few years back? 

I have an old LP of Harry Belafonte and Lena Horne doing songs from P and B. If you can ever find it, buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hedera and siobhan, if I lived in the Bay Area, I&#8217;d be all over the &#8220;Porgy and Bess&#8221; presentation. Love Gershwin, and love Porgy. Sounds great. Anyone see the opera presentation on PBS a few years back? </p>
<p>I have an old LP of Harry Belafonte and Lena Horne doing songs from P and B. If you can ever find it, buy it.
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		<title>by: David</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/06/guilty-my-aspen/#comment-23860</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>hedera, it was Dale of the mysterious gender who has been getting feedback from Venezuelans.    The impossible situation for me is that Chavez has been forced into a hard-headed populist box by our clumsy, stupid, old-school treatment of Venezuela.  Sadly he is demonstrating an ego-driven "you're my ally or my enemy" mindset (fortunately we don't have to worry about that with our presidente).  Since we won't allow anyone with major oil reserves to choose their own governments outside of whomever we approve, and we are willing to kill innocent people in rather large numbers to get our way (the list is long and sickening), I wind up being more tolerant of a strongman who alleviates poverty than one who inflicts it.  It is the lesser-of-the-political-evils argument, I know, but he's an angel compared to, say, Rios Montt.  I am inclined to say Let the Venezuelans decide at the ballot box, assuming the elections are reasonably legitimate (as ours in 2000 was not).  If the way to winning is having to bribe the poor, because there are so many of them, then it's a reality that I think has to be accepted.  My personal hope is that people like the new president of Chile, and other progressives in Central and South America, can have a moderating effect on Chavez, but the reality that clouds everything is the never-ending plots by our government to overthrow/invade/leave to fester in their poverty so long as they serve our perceived business interests and are in no way suggestive of the possibility that socialism has any place, any where, in any form in the new American century.

I also think that the leader of a revolution is all to often ill-equipped to build a civil society, Castro being a prime example, but I have no way to know for sure because the military behemoth without scruples in relation to countries like Cuba, Chile, Panama, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Venezuela, Iraq, etc, would never allow them to lead in peace.  I am reminded of the British attitude toward the Middle East early in the last century, an attitude shared by Winston Churchill:
"We know how to bomb the niggers."  I'm afraid we're back to square one under Bush, as we were toward Nicaragua and El Salvador under Reagan through proxies, and I am also afraid that the only thing the majority of Americans are pissed about is that we are losing in Iraq.  Chavez has good reason to arm himself and take measures to prevent another coup, which might make impossible the kind of government we would like to see there.

Damn, but I wish Chavez could possess the wisdom to be someone progressives could embrace without serious reservations, and I hope to Lobster he doesn't fuck up and become just another banana republican dictator, which he can't so long as he has to have the votes of the poor rather than being able to use the poor for target practice.

Wow, all of this from a Tom Toles cartoon.  OK, I've used up more than my share of band width on this topic, so I pledge to go brief for a while.

Also, Jeanne Kirkpatrick, feel free to kiss my root-cause fanny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hedera, it was Dale of the mysterious gender who has been getting feedback from Venezuelans.    The impossible situation for me is that Chavez has been forced into a hard-headed populist box by our clumsy, stupid, old-school treatment of Venezuela.  Sadly he is demonstrating an ego-driven &#8220;you&#8217;re my ally or my enemy&#8221; mindset (fortunately we don&#8217;t have to worry about that with our presidente).  Since we won&#8217;t allow anyone with major oil reserves to choose their own governments outside of whomever we approve, and we are willing to kill innocent people in rather large numbers to get our way (the list is long and sickening), I wind up being more tolerant of a strongman who alleviates poverty than one who inflicts it.  It is the lesser-of-the-political-evils argument, I know, but he&#8217;s an angel compared to, say, Rios Montt.  I am inclined to say Let the Venezuelans decide at the ballot box, assuming the elections are reasonably legitimate (as ours in 2000 was not).  If the way to winning is having to bribe the poor, because there are so many of them, then it&#8217;s a reality that I think has to be accepted.  My personal hope is that people like the new president of Chile, and other progressives in Central and South America, can have a moderating effect on Chavez, but the reality that clouds everything is the never-ending plots by our government to overthrow/invade/leave to fester in their poverty so long as they serve our perceived business interests and are in no way suggestive of the possibility that socialism has any place, any where, in any form in the new American century.</p>
<p>I also think that the leader of a revolution is all to often ill-equipped to build a civil society, Castro being a prime example, but I have no way to know for sure because the military behemoth without scruples in relation to countries like Cuba, Chile, Panama, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Venezuela, Iraq, etc, would never allow them to lead in peace.  I am reminded of the British attitude toward the Middle East early in the last century, an attitude shared by Winston Churchill:<br />
&#8220;We know how to bomb the niggers.&#8221;  I&#8217;m afraid we&#8217;re back to square one under Bush, as we were toward Nicaragua and El Salvador under Reagan through proxies, and I am also afraid that the only thing the majority of Americans are pissed about is that we are losing in Iraq.  Chavez has good reason to arm himself and take measures to prevent another coup, which might make impossible the kind of government we would like to see there.</p>
<p>Damn, but I wish Chavez could possess the wisdom to be someone progressives could embrace without serious reservations, and I hope to Lobster he doesn&#8217;t fuck up and become just another banana republican dictator, which he can&#8217;t so long as he has to have the votes of the poor rather than being able to use the poor for target practice.</p>
<p>Wow, all of this from a Tom Toles cartoon.  OK, I&#8217;ve used up more than my share of band width on this topic, so I pledge to go brief for a while.</p>
<p>Also, Jeanne Kirkpatrick, feel free to kiss my root-cause fanny.
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		<title>by: Dale</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/06/guilty-my-aspen/#comment-23859</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>¨Anyone who has ever driven cross-country in August with a station wagon full of great aunts and pre-teens and an electrical anomaly that keeps the power windows stuck in the up position and the air-conditioning cutting in and out like a crazy monkey will have a reasonable idea of how enjoyable our trek was.¨

Little Miss Sunshine II!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>¨Anyone who has ever driven cross-country in August with a station wagon full of great aunts and pre-teens and an electrical anomaly that keeps the power windows stuck in the up position and the air-conditioning cutting in and out like a crazy monkey will have a reasonable idea of how enjoyable our trek was.¨</p>
<p>Little Miss Sunshine II!
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