Early, early tomorrow I’ll be flying to Aspen, CO, for a “Wait Wait” and to “take the waters” (does Aspen have waters? How does one take them, and where does one put them after taking them?).
Meanwhile, please enjoy where YOU are, which probably has higher temperatures and almost definitely features more oxygen. Also, please enjoy discussing the Libby pardon - er, verdict.
And on another note - Dick Cheney’s blood clot was widely reported, but somewhat underreported was the fact that he was treated at George Washington University. This is relevant because that’s only a couple of miles from Walter Reed, where the Vice President is presumably unable to receive care, even if he wanted it, because the facility is for “soldiers, other service members, family members and retirees in the National Capital Area.”
Still, one would imagine that the Vice President might be welcome there, seeing as he’s helped them hold down costs while drumming up a ton of business for them. But I’m sure that Cheney was happy to pay more for his private civilian doctor - he’s expensive, but he won’t cost you an arm and a leg.
[A rim-shot is heard. Adam yells “Thank you, boys! Good night!” and mimes a golf swing. The troops applaud wildly, the band strikes up a bouncy swing tune, and a trio of sisters come out to sing “Mr. Sandman” as Adam salutes and heads for the wings…]





49 comments
gillian
March 7, 2007 at 4:03 am
1Adam on WWDTM? Okay, now I’ve got one more reason to look forward to this weekend; like I needed another reason.
dee
March 7, 2007 at 6:43 am
2Just remember that you and the rest of the WWDTM crew need to “turn in clusters” while you’re our there.
Rebecca
March 7, 2007 at 8:37 am
3Hate to be picky, but you might want to make that “cost you AN arm and a leg” instead of “cost you AND arm and a leg.” It’s all about the details.
And while I imagine Minnesota has more oxygen, I think we might be colder. (Currently in Aspen — 34 degrees F. Currently in St. Paul — 20 degrees F.) So enjoy the warmth!
cooper
March 7, 2007 at 9:13 am
4Rebecca. Warmth? You want warmth? Today is sunny and 67F and … Oh, I should stop doing this. dee, you tell her.
Adam, good luck on the show; have fun, I know we will.
dee
March 7, 2007 at 10:54 am
5Years ago on March days like this I would call my mother up in Michigan and say “I can go outside without a coat today!”
To which she would reply “Well, we could go outside without our coats, too.
(Pause)
Of course, we would be cold.”
God, I miss that woman.
It's Pat!
March 7, 2007 at 1:23 pm
6I live a full 45 miles south of Rebecca, and it’s a balmy 23F here.
At least my son thinks it is balmy. Typical 15 year old, wanders around without a coat unless we tackle him first.
I don’t think Adam has the nose for the new job - it would have to match where he is going.
Rebecca
March 7, 2007 at 1:39 pm
7I’ve got a friend from high school who wore shorts all the time, unless dress pants were required. It could be 100F, it could be blizzarding, but he would be in shorts. I don’t think he had circulation in his legs. Just seems improbable.
tim
March 7, 2007 at 2:28 pm
8Cheney would have been treated at Walter Reed, but he had other priorities.
Sunny and 72 in San Antonio, although pretty soon, I’ll be able to light my gas grill with ambient heat.
Mojo
March 7, 2007 at 3:24 pm
9Nice one, Tim!
And, to add more taunting to our friends in the Frost Belt, it’s 79 up the road here in San Angelo
zee Man
March 7, 2007 at 4:02 pm
10Yeah, tim. His priority was to be treated without getting rat bit. What a pussy! Norridgewock checking in, where it’s clear and 8F. This week I can finally walk out on the lake. In the good old days, you could drive your truck on the ice. I don’t think I’ll be doing that anymore.
Murray
March 7, 2007 at 4:34 pm
11Yeah we got 5″ of snow on the insane driveway (170′ climb) that insulates me from the road. We had our spring in early January.
About 15 years ago I installed a huge greenhouse on the cafeteria on the SUNY in Oneida NY. For two weeks in December the warmest it got was 20 degrees, we had over 3′ of snow and many days the high temperature was 0. Not a day went by that I didn’t see students in shorts heading for lunch.
According to Christine Lavin, “Nobody’s fat in Aspen” Enjoy Little Nell’s
gillian
March 7, 2007 at 5:01 pm
12Maybe these two boys need to grow a brain.
David
March 7, 2007 at 6:33 pm
13Chavez might seem goofy sometimes, but he doesn’t bomb people, he is making the life of the poor much better, and unlike Mr. Bush, who tried to overthrow Mr. Chavez with a military coup, Mr. Chavez has not repaid in kind. Of course, as in Iraq, that is our oil.
So I have to disagree with Tom Toles this time around. Geopolitically and socially, especially as regards the Catholic church’s preferential option for the poor, to which Mr. Chavez is attending with money from Venezuela’s nationalized oil reserves, I have to say that Hugo Chavez, for all of his foolishnesses and what appears to be some heavy-handedness, stands head and shoulders above our pathetic president. I’m surprised that Tom Toles would join in on the Chavez bashing in a manner that equates him with Bush. I would understand Toles going after Chavez for ill-advised posturing. But Bush isn’t posturing, he is wreaking homicidal havoc while leaving America’s poor to fend for themselves/fester in the aftermath of Katrina/etc.
Other than that, gillian, no problems with this particular cartoon from one of the masters of the genre.
David
March 7, 2007 at 6:36 pm
14Oh, yeah, 55 tonight, 79 tomorrow. But spring is the shortest season of the year, and we too will be able to light our grills with ambient heat before long.
cooper
March 7, 2007 at 6:44 pm
15Here’s an interesting story. Marine Reserves Cpl Matt Sanchez attends Columbia University in NY. He wrote this article in the New York Post about how he was dissed by a student for being dumb because he joined the Marines. He also feels he’s just not getting enough love from his fellow students and is disappointed that the administration at Columbia hasn’t taken the steps needed to make the student quit calling him names. After his article ran, he became the darling of CPAC and made the rounds at last week’s convention, having his picture taken with the likes of Newt Gingrich, our friend Ann Coulter and many others. Countdown reported tonight that Matt Sanchez has a secret life as a - drumroll, please - male prostitute and gay porn movie actor. Ain’t life strange?
Dale
March 7, 2007 at 7:56 pm
16David, it´s hard not to like many of Chávez´s goals and much of their effects, but the reality is, I believe, a bit more complicated. (Not that I´m an expert, but I work in a university Spanish & Portuguese department–with its share of Venezuelan exiles–and I read a lot of the Latin American press.) He has done much for Venezuela´s most poor. He has also completely silenced freedom of expression, imprisoned opponents and dissidents, and eroded checks and balances in the Venezuelan government and civil society. The level of violence in Venezuela–something like 1 in 3 Venezuelans has been kidnapped by one of the other 2 in 3 Venezuelans– now has made it fairly unliveable for any sort of middle class. I would like to think that it is possible to enact egalitarian social reform without such sacrifices. I even accept the argument that such sacrifices are necessary. But the disaster that is the American government shouldn´t blind us to the fact that such sacrifices–human rights, democratic institutions and the like—are being made in Venezuela today.
Okay, off my soapbox. Need the soap.
SeattleDan
March 7, 2007 at 8:11 pm
17I don’t know enough about the internal politics to dispute Dale on the subject, but I’d make two comments. One, he was subject to a U.S. backed coup attempt, and he may be just a tad paranoid. And, two, he has won three elections, beat back a recall attempt and no one, so far a I know, thought the elections rigged. If Dale is right, and I have no reason to doubt her, I hope Chavez backs off on the more repressive measures that have been imposed.
I think the bombastic nature of his appearance and our perception of him here is culturally affected. I don’t believe we’ve had a politician like him here in the States since Huey Long, and Long was killed over 70 years ago now. I wasn’t around for FDR, but I think he set the style most Americans are comfortable with in a politician. It’s different for Latin American where Fidel Castro has set the precedent, especially for the Left.
ginny
March 7, 2007 at 9:27 pm
18Adam!! trust me on this one, as a native Coloradan! You gotta go for a nice soak in the giant hot springs pool at Glenwood Springs, which is on I-70, about an hour or more (traffic permitting) north of Aspen. My husband and I have been there a few times, and the pool is an amazing experience, especially on a cold night. The price drops for the last hour or so that they’re open. We didn’t get to spend as much time there the last trip as we would have liked. Don’t miss it, if your schedule permits.
Also: there’s a sweet little historic movie theater in Carbondale, plus several very highly regarded little restaurants and art galleries. It’s not quite as tony as Aspen, but very charming. Carbondale is about midway between Glenwood and Aspen.
We’re not downhill skiiers, so I can’t really recommend anything in Aspen itself; when we’ve been there, we just walk around gawking at the high-end shops and equally high-end shoppers, and then bug out at the end of the day.
You’ll probably be wined and dined and get high-end goodie bags because you’re a famous radio guy and all. Don’t let it go to your head.
Dale
March 8, 2007 at 12:03 am
19I sure wish high end wining and dining would go to my head instead of my rear.
cooper
March 8, 2007 at 3:23 am
20Okay, Dale, the rear end “crack” above seals it - you’re a female for sure, though I was predisposed to think male, since my brother is also a Dale. I’m glad that’s settled.
Any tattoos?
David
March 8, 2007 at 5:23 am
21No, cooper, that doesn’t settle it all. W(h)ining and one’s rear end are gender neutral. And notice the interest in maintaining the supply of soap, which is also gender neutral. Me, I fling the stuff to the wind. I also have no idea what my point is at this point.
I was thinking, however, Bush’s Latin American tour (that is usually Jeb’s job, since he’s the family enforcer south of the border - but he no longer has the clout of Florida’s governorship) could be called the Stench of Sulfur Tour.
America’s problem with General Bombast seems to me not to be that he is a strongman, just that he’s not our strongman. Wish there were some reliable way to know more fully what the picture in Venezuela really is, but what you are hearing, Dale, must be accounted for, for sure. Perhaps in our short-lived coup, we were successful in that we forced Chavez to take on a much more heavy-handed stance than might otherwise have been the case, which then helps make him less acceptable and our continuing war against his presidency more acceptable here.
David
March 8, 2007 at 5:26 am
22Oh, yeah, now see what you’ve started, gillian, just by linking a Tom Da Man Toles cartoon.
siobhan
March 8, 2007 at 5:52 am
23ginny, I’m sure the hot springs are great and that Carbondale is fun. But clearly the best use of his time in the area would be to go looking for ptarmigan. That’s why I visited the area, and I can’t imagine any one wouldn’t share that enthusiasm.
Murray
March 8, 2007 at 8:05 am
24That’s right Adam, you need to go looking for a Ptarmigan, a white bird in snow. It’s kind of like going on a Snipe hunt at night. We’ll be back at the car waiting for you. Have fun.
cooper
March 8, 2007 at 10:02 am
25Well, we all have been exposed to my prowess as a birder, and I hope you all are duly impressed. But I’ll risk all that prestige here by saying - I’ve always thought the ptarmigan is an Arctic bird.
…Maybe I should just shut-up…
siobhan
March 8, 2007 at 10:53 am
26Cooper, most of them are arctic, but white-tailed ptarmigan also live in the higher elevations of the Rockies. (I consider your prestige to be intact.)
Ann
March 8, 2007 at 1:34 pm
27I went to a taping of This American Life last night. Ira Glass and Co. are touring to promote their new TV show.
Just throwing that out there.
SeattleDan
March 8, 2007 at 2:08 pm
28How was it? I heard Ira on the local morning NPR show here and he seemed to be in fine form.
cooper
March 8, 2007 at 2:17 pm
29Amy Dickinson was on Talk of the Nation this afternoon from a NPR studio in Aspen, CO. I would hazard a guess that she is one of the panelists on WWDTM this week. Just a guess.
Yeah, Ann, what did you think of the show?
It's Pat!
March 8, 2007 at 3:25 pm
30Ira cancelled on Minne-blow-ta-snow-ta last week because of, you guessed it, snow.
hedera
March 8, 2007 at 5:04 pm
31David’s impressions from his Venezuelan colleagues square exactly with what I’ve been reading about Col. Chavez in the Economist for the last 5 years. He is bribing the country into leaving him in power by lavishing oil money on the very poor; since they outnumber everybody else, he always wins the elections. Venezuela is now a wonderful place to live if you are (a) very poor, or (b) a Chavista. Or, of course, both. Everybody else pretty much has to watch his back.
The fact that Chavez survived a U.S. backed coup attempt (we won’t admit it but it was) merely displays his great political skill and great popularity. Caligula was popular with the mobile vulgus too - he threw them money. The fact that it was red hot was incidental, it cooled off eventually. Chavez is throwing money to the poor. God knows they need the money, but I wonder what will happen if the price of oil comes back down again, as it still may.
David may well be right that America’s primary objection to Chavez is that he’s not our sumbitch. However, it’s possible to object to his actions toward his own citizens, regardless of his attitude toward the U.S.
Ann
March 8, 2007 at 5:30 pm
32The show was funny and endearing. But no money was thrown at us. Damn.
I think it’s the government’s objection that Chavez isn’t our sumbitch—not America’s. Our government has always embraced leaders of his ilk.
Don’t you just love the word ilk? Is it ever used with a positive connotation?
Jim (OJNTNJ)
March 8, 2007 at 5:59 pm
33It’s Pat, shouldn’t the new name be “Minne-Snow-Bloat-a” by now? Or have you already used that one?
siobhan
March 8, 2007 at 6:37 pm
34Hedera, I somehow just knew you were an Economist reader. We really must meet someday.
Dale
March 8, 2007 at 6:54 pm
35I think ilk are beautiful, with their big antlers and their doe-y eyes.
Cooper, I´m so glad we finally see eye to eye on my se…. oh dear, that´s not what I mean at all.
siobhan
March 8, 2007 at 6:58 pm
36There were plenty of ilk near Aspen, too… should Adam be disposed to wildlife viewing.
hedera
March 8, 2007 at 7:07 pm
37Well, siobhan, if you’re into Gershwin as well as birds, the Oakland Symphony Chorus is doing a “Discovery Day” on Porgy and Bess this Saturday morning, and I’ll be there. Four hours of discussion of the piece and its background and history, by Dr. Lynne Morrow who did her dissertation on it, during which chorus members in attendance (and musical guests) will sing all the choruses; $35 at the door ($25 on the web site in advance, we take PayPal). 9 AM at St. Peter’s Episcopal on Broadway in Oakland (near the exit off 24).
Lemuel
March 8, 2007 at 7:11 pm
38Buenos dios, amigos! The news from Central America is mixed. We made the walk out of the jungle with the orphans, the pilot, the nuns and a Shaman/traveling blow gun salesman, who mysteriously appeared at our campfire the first night of our journey back to civilization. Anyone who has ever driven cross-country in August with a station wagon full of great aunts and pre-teens and an electrical anomaly that keeps the power windows stuck in the up position and the air-conditioning cutting in and out like a crazy monkey will have a reasonable idea of how enjoyable our trek was. To the great credit of all involved, nobody was murdered.
Sadly, Rocio’s “pregnancy” was a no-go. She’s been pretty torn up about this for the last month and after the walkabout, we decided to take a little time away from each other. I gave her $5700 and a rental car that I charged to the American Express Titanium card that’s been traveling with me for the last year or so (Thanks, Mr. DeLay!). Rocio is back in Mexico and staying with her parents, her cousins, her alcoholic uncle & his extended family, the lone mechanic in town, the Jefe and the florist, all of whom apparently live in the same casa. I’ve seen pictures of her family’s house and if I were her, I’d get a room at the Motel 6.
The newspapers here in Panama have dusted off their “Second Coming of Christ” sized font and used it to announce Bush’s trip to South America. All I can say is if he thought the most recent Rose Garden news conferences were vexing, he’s about to witness the Apocalypse that he seems so eager to personally visit upon the earth. The hombres down here are PO’ed, hungry and, thanks to NAFTA, unemployed. If I were Bush, I’d do my meet and greets from the Popemobile or better yet, looking out the window of Air Force One from 35,000 feet.
I do have a few irons in the fire that may bring me back to the good ol’ US of A in a month or so. Until then, I’ll be lying on the beach, waiting for Rocio’s return. Hasta luego, compadres!
K. Trout
March 8, 2007 at 7:26 pm
39Lemuel, all that talk about President Bush has reminded me of another of my stories, this one entitled “Hail to the Chief”. Politicians have always been a puzzle. They are all formlessly, enthusiastic chimpanzees to me. “Hail to the Chief” is a story about an optimistic chimpanzee who became President of the United States.
The chimpanzee wore a little blue blazer with brass buttons, and with the seal of the President of the United States sewed to the breast pocket.
Everywhere he went, bands would play “Hail to the Chief.” The chimpanzee loved it. He would bounce up and down. And so it goes.
Dale
March 8, 2007 at 7:31 pm
40¨Anyone who has ever driven cross-country in August with a station wagon full of great aunts and pre-teens and an electrical anomaly that keeps the power windows stuck in the up position and the air-conditioning cutting in and out like a crazy monkey will have a reasonable idea of how enjoyable our trek was.¨
Little Miss Sunshine II!
David
March 8, 2007 at 7:53 pm
41hedera, it was Dale of the mysterious gender who has been getting feedback from Venezuelans. The impossible situation for me is that Chavez has been forced into a hard-headed populist box by our clumsy, stupid, old-school treatment of Venezuela. Sadly he is demonstrating an ego-driven “you’re my ally or my enemy” mindset (fortunately we don’t have to worry about that with our presidente). Since we won’t allow anyone with major oil reserves to choose their own governments outside of whomever we approve, and we are willing to kill innocent people in rather large numbers to get our way (the list is long and sickening), I wind up being more tolerant of a strongman who alleviates poverty than one who inflicts it. It is the lesser-of-the-political-evils argument, I know, but he’s an angel compared to, say, Rios Montt. I am inclined to say Let the Venezuelans decide at the ballot box, assuming the elections are reasonably legitimate (as ours in 2000 was not). If the way to winning is having to bribe the poor, because there are so many of them, then it’s a reality that I think has to be accepted. My personal hope is that people like the new president of Chile, and other progressives in Central and South America, can have a moderating effect on Chavez, but the reality that clouds everything is the never-ending plots by our government to overthrow/invade/leave to fester in their poverty so long as they serve our perceived business interests and are in no way suggestive of the possibility that socialism has any place, any where, in any form in the new American century.
I also think that the leader of a revolution is all to often ill-equipped to build a civil society, Castro being a prime example, but I have no way to know for sure because the military behemoth without scruples in relation to countries like Cuba, Chile, Panama, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Venezuela, Iraq, etc, would never allow them to lead in peace. I am reminded of the British attitude toward the Middle East early in the last century, an attitude shared by Winston Churchill:
“We know how to bomb the niggers.” I’m afraid we’re back to square one under Bush, as we were toward Nicaragua and El Salvador under Reagan through proxies, and I am also afraid that the only thing the majority of Americans are pissed about is that we are losing in Iraq. Chavez has good reason to arm himself and take measures to prevent another coup, which might make impossible the kind of government we would like to see there.
Damn, but I wish Chavez could possess the wisdom to be someone progressives could embrace without serious reservations, and I hope to Lobster he doesn’t fuck up and become just another banana republican dictator, which he can’t so long as he has to have the votes of the poor rather than being able to use the poor for target practice.
Wow, all of this from a Tom Toles cartoon. OK, I’ve used up more than my share of band width on this topic, so I pledge to go brief for a while.
Also, Jeanne Kirkpatrick, feel free to kiss my root-cause fanny.
SeattleDan
March 8, 2007 at 8:01 pm
42hedera and siobhan, if I lived in the Bay Area, I’d be all over the “Porgy and Bess” presentation. Love Gershwin, and love Porgy. Sounds great. Anyone see the opera presentation on PBS a few years back?
I have an old LP of Harry Belafonte and Lena Horne doing songs from P and B. If you can ever find it, buy it.
David
March 9, 2007 at 6:39 am
43Fanny apparently ate my last comment. I think that’s good. My keyboard became possessed.
What appears to be a nesting pair of sandhills has apparently moved into the small pasture right next door, siobhan. Love the way they just look at me like Who are you?
SomeGuyFromDownValley
March 9, 2007 at 8:50 am
44Adam,
My wife talked me into going to the show last night. You are the only funny one in the troop. Oh, and please lose Bodett. Trust me on this one. That guy is flatter than Anne Coulter’s pancakes. I suppose you already knew that, though.
I hope that the joke that Sagal referred to as “bestiality” makes it into the show. That there was some funnay stuff!
Carry on, and thanks for the laughs.
–SomeGuyFromDownValley
siobhan
March 9, 2007 at 9:43 am
45Sorry, must disagree with you about Tom Bodett. I have very much enjoyed him since he started on the show. Everyone is entitled to an off-night, of course; maybe last night was his.
cooper
March 9, 2007 at 2:19 pm
46I have to agree with siobhan. Although Tom may have started off fairly unremarkable, he has definitely come up to speed & earned his rightful place on the panel. I’ve very much enjoyed his quick wit and his quirky brand of humor. If we can’t have Adam every week, it’s good to have people like Tom waiting in the wings. SGFDV, I’ve only been to one taping. The acoustics in that hall were not optimal and though Paula’s voice certainly is irrepressible, I found out when I listened to the same program on the radio, that I hadn’t caught a lot of what Kyrie and Mo had said. They got in some great zingers that I missed when I was in the audience.
Maximum Bob
March 9, 2007 at 4:39 pm
47I like Tom Bodett. He tends toward the droll, which works for me.
He also holds the distinction of having provided the setup for the funniest caller line in the history of the show. During a call-in segment, the movie Brokeback Mountain was mentioned, and Bodett said, apropos of I don’t remember what, “Well, you kind of knew those guys weren’t going up to that mountain just for the fishing.” To which the caller responded, “Well, fly fishing, maybe.”
The panel broke up, the audience broke up, and the earth tilted ever so slightly on its axis.
David
March 10, 2007 at 7:19 am
48Fanny released my rant. Back on current topic: add my vote in support of Tom Bodett, for same reason as Maximum Bob.
Speaking of Bush (I clearly can’t help myself), they are talking about the value of dung beetles on RFD TV. Can we introduce a robust dung beetle population in the White House?
Murray
March 12, 2007 at 7:55 am
49You have to think that being a pannelist on WWDTM is a tough job. You need to have a very quick wit, deliver it perfectly the first time and not step on other’s lines.
Adam sets a very high bar. Not being AS good doesn’t mean that you aren’t good. All those years of improv have paid off.