Comments on: Another Outrage http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/ America's favorite blog Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:50:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: David http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/#comment-23889 Sat, 10 Mar 2007 19:11:42 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/#comment-23889 George, We already have, Bush is pushing for a new generation of nukes, we have "tactical" nukes, we have no qualms about dusting battlefields with vaporized uranium, and we want military dominance in space. The only thing that works re nukes is MAD, because no one else who has them has any intention of using them, especially since India and Pakistan finally realized they can't nuke each other except in a mutual suicide pact. Ditto Israel and Iran, although Israeli reactionaries don't quite seem to get it. The unsecured nuclear material from the former Soviet Union, which we refused to facilitate the securing of, even though Nunn-Lugar pointed in the right direction, is the actual major threat regarding the use by anybody besides us of nuclear devices, especially terrorists with dirty bombs, which would come in in cargo ships, which we refuse to screen effectively because it would disrupt the just-on-time delivery of the goods Americans consume with much greater vigor than drugs or junk food. George,

We already have, Bush is pushing for a new generation of nukes, we have “tactical” nukes, we have no qualms about dusting battlefields with vaporized uranium, and we want military dominance in space.

The only thing that works re nukes is MAD, because no one else who has them has any intention of using them, especially since India and Pakistan finally realized they can’t nuke each other except in a mutual suicide pact. Ditto Israel and Iran, although Israeli reactionaries don’t quite seem to get it.

The unsecured nuclear material from the former Soviet Union, which we refused to facilitate the securing of, even though Nunn-Lugar pointed in the right direction, is the actual major threat regarding the use by anybody besides us of nuclear devices, especially terrorists with dirty bombs, which would come in in cargo ships, which we refuse to screen effectively because it would disrupt the just-on-time delivery of the goods Americans consume with much greater vigor than drugs or junk food.

]]> by: George http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/#comment-23868 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:15:58 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/#comment-23868 I totally understand that more than a few people do not trust America with nukes, but if put side by side the middle east I can't see how a correlation is created. I cannot see America nuking a foreign country. However I can see some extremist group being allowed to "steal" said technology and use it against America or for that matter some other closer country. The Middle East is in a current upheaval now, granted quite a bit due to America's involvement, but can you honestly tell yourself that at this point we could apologies step back and just hope that these countries only use nuclear technology for peaceful means? Did I totally miss the point? -g I totally understand that more than a few people do not trust America with nukes, but if put side by side the middle east I can’t see how a correlation is created. I cannot see America nuking a foreign country. However I can see some extremist group being allowed to “steal” said technology and use it against America or for that matter some other closer country. The Middle East is in a current upheaval now, granted quite a bit due to America’s involvement, but can you honestly tell yourself that at this point we could apologies step back and just hope that these countries only use nuclear technology for peaceful means? Did I totally miss the point?
-g

]]> by: David http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/#comment-23690 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:33:04 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/#comment-23690 The Poopyhead-in-Chief continues to wow the American people with his geopolitical genius and deft handling of Iraq and the GWOT: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/01/new-bush-iraq-poll-numbers/ The Poopyhead-in-Chief continues to wow the American people with his geopolitical genius and deft handling of Iraq and the GWOT:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/01/new-bush-iraq-poll-numbe rs/

]]> by: K. Trout http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/#comment-23686 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 03:26:14 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/#comment-23686 This discussion reminds me of a story I wrote a while back called The Money Tree. The money tree had twenty-dollar bills for leaves. Its flowers were government bonds. Its fruit was diamonds. It attracted human beings who killed each other around the roots and made very good fertilizer. So it goes. Now if we just substitute nuclear weapons for the money tree... This discussion reminds me of a story I wrote a while back called The Money Tree. The money tree had twenty-dollar bills for leaves. Its flowers were government bonds. Its fruit was diamonds. It attracted human beings who killed each other around the roots and made very good fertilizer. So it goes. Now if we just substitute nuclear weapons for the money tree…

]]> by: Ann http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/#comment-23684 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:31:01 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/#comment-23684 Ahh, the spirit of Pogo is alive and well. Ahh, the spirit of Pogo is alive and well.

]]> by: Hanna http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/#comment-23683 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:29:14 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/#comment-23683 Pretty much think the poopyheads not being allowed to handle nuclear technology barrier has already been crossed. We have met the poopyheads and they is us. Love, Hanna Pretty much think the poopyheads not being allowed to handle nuclear technology barrier has already been crossed.

We have met the poopyheads and they is us.

Love,

Hanna

]]> by: Mieke http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/#comment-23681 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 01:34:21 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/#comment-23681 Adam, brilliant. No poopyheads with nukes! Especially no poopyheads that we want to invade! No poopyheads that we want to invade with nukes! That's catchy... What really disturbs me is how Iran has had a nuclear energy program for at least 30 years with the U.S.'s blessing and even help. In fact, my father, a nuclear physicist, got the blessing and U.S. government clearance to send them some lasers for their nuclear energy program in the 70's. There have been no problems and no threats from Iran until this regime decided they needed to immediately halt this very very imminently dangerous emerging (30 year old) nuclear program. But as Jon Stewart pointed out yesterday, this administration isn't even going to pretend to acknowledge their constant contradictions (The UK pulling troops out means the war is practically won! The US must send additional troops to win! Iran's government is personally responsible for the actions of any terrorists that hail from there! Abu Ghraib was the actions of a few! We can't blame Saudi Arabia for some terrorist nuts that happened to overwhelmingly come from there!) Adam, brilliant. No poopyheads with nukes! Especially no poopyheads that we want to invade! No poopyheads that we want to invade with nukes! That’s catchy…

What really disturbs me is how Iran has had a nuclear energy program for at least 30 years with the U.S.’s blessing and even help. In fact, my father, a nuclear physicist, got the blessing and U.S. government clearance to send them some lasers for their nuclear energy program in the 70’s. There have been no problems and no threats from Iran until this regime decided they needed to immediately halt this very very imminently dangerous emerging (30 year old) nuclear program.

But as Jon Stewart pointed out yesterday, this administration isn’t even going to pretend to acknowledge their constant contradictions (The UK pulling troops out means the war is practically won! The US must send additional troops to win! Iran’s government is personally responsible for the actions of any terrorists that hail from there! Abu Ghraib was the actions of a few! We can’t blame Saudi Arabia for some terrorist nuts that happened to overwhelmingly come from there!)

]]> by: David http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/#comment-23680 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:50:05 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2007/03/01/another-outrage/#comment-23680 Oh, Lord, I'm first, unless someone else posts while I'm keystroking. There you go again, Adam, bringing reality into your commentary. Of course only the people we deem worthy should have nukes, unless they have nukes whether we thought they should or not, in which case the deeming can change, as in the case of Pakistan, and now North Korea, even if Pakistan was the Home Depot of nuclear weapons proliferation. Fortunately no one in the Middle East actually has nuclear weapons, so if we can stop Iran, the Middle East will continue to be nuke free, and likely a model for world peace. I gather we've chosen to pacify Baghdad with 105 mm howitzers. Is this an economy move intended to stanch the hemorrhaging of the federal budget into the Great War to Save the World from Terrorism at Its Epicenter, or just proof that we think war should return to pre-nuke days? Oh, Lord, I’m first, unless someone else posts while I’m keystroking. There you go again, Adam, bringing reality into your commentary. Of course only the people we deem worthy should have nukes, unless they have nukes whether we thought they should or not, in which case the deeming can change, as in the case of Pakistan, and now North Korea, even if Pakistan was the Home Depot of nuclear weapons proliferation. Fortunately no one in the Middle East actually has nuclear weapons, so if we can stop Iran, the Middle East will continue to be nuke free, and likely a model for world peace.

I gather we’ve chosen to pacify Baghdad with 105 mm howitzers. Is this an economy move intended to stanch the hemorrhaging of the federal budget into the Great War to Save the World from Terrorism at Its Epicenter, or just proof that we think war should return to pre-nuke days?

]]>