Comments on: LA return (after la return) http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/ America's favorite blog Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:24:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: David http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22215 Thu, 21 Dec 2006 05:49:11 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22215 Landis, I don't actually know what the vet injected into my miniature dachshund, but she did it with great skill and compassion, and Gretch died very peacefully. I will always be grateful. Landis,

I don’t actually know what the vet injected into my miniature dachshund, but she did it with great skill and compassion, and Gretch died very peacefully. I will always be grateful.

]]> by: Landis http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22178 Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:40:53 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22178 I thought that this was the method used by veterinarians. I really don't want to hear that it's a painful method so maybe I should stop this line of conversation. But what do doctors usually perscribe in when acting under the scope Oregon's 'Death with Dignity' Act? I thought that this was the method used by veterinarians. I really don’t want to hear that it’s a painful method so maybe I should stop this line of conversation.

But what do doctors usually perscribe in when acting under the scope Oregon’s ‘Death with Dignity’ Act?

]]> by: another Matt http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22166 Wed, 20 Dec 2006 03:26:15 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22166 I don't think it would be quick or pretty, Landis. I've never tried to overdose anyone, but respiration would slow, leading to gasping and (I think) agonal breathing, which might appear to the faint of heart like suffering. The present system is designed to be humane. Deep sedation, than a potassium bolus that quickly stops the heart. Of course, if the I.V. has infiltrated into the subcutaneous tissue, the sedation is less effective and the KCl burns like hell. So don't try to execute IV drug abusers with bad veins. Or rather drop in a central line (into the big veins around the neck or collar bone) before proceeding. Not that I'm advocating for death. Incompatible with hippocratic oath, most say. I don’t think it would be quick or pretty, Landis. I’ve never tried to overdose anyone, but respiration would slow, leading to gasping and (I think) agonal breathing, which might appear to the faint of heart like suffering.
The present system is designed to be humane. Deep sedation, than a potassium bolus that quickly stops the heart. Of course, if the I.V. has infiltrated into the subcutaneous tissue, the sedation is less effective and the KCl burns like hell.
So don’t try to execute IV drug abusers with bad veins. Or rather drop in a central line (into the big veins around the neck or collar bone) before proceeding.
Not that I’m advocating for death. Incompatible with hippocratic oath, most say.

]]> by: Landis http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22152 Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:54:33 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22152 Well, as long as we're still on the subject... If we're going to execute people, what's wrong with an 'overdose' of a sedative like morphine? Isn't this what we do when we put our pets 'to sleep'? Not that I'm particularly opposed to a painful death for people that deserve it, if we're going to follow the Bill of Rights and still insist on executing some criminals, why not just do it the way we take care of our non-human loved ones? Personally I'm still opposed to capital punishment overall, but only barely. Well, as long as we’re still on the subject…

If we’re going to execute people, what’s wrong with an ‘overdose’ of a sedative like morphine? Isn’t this what we do when we put our pets ‘to sleep’? Not that I’m particularly opposed to a painful death for people that deserve it, if we’re going to follow the Bill of Rights and still insist on executing some criminals, why not just do it the way we take care of our non-human loved ones?

Personally I’m still opposed to capital punishment overall, but only barely.

]]> by: Stephen http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22139 Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:05:12 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22139 This has got to be the only place on the web where you can talk about WW,DTM and the death penalty in the same thread. Well, when in Felberland… Adam/Mo: a most excellent show. I got to listen to it twice on Sirius and have the pod-cast as well. The best show in months. As far as the death penalty, my feelings are that a person, who chooses to disregard the laws of our society, particularly in violent or vicious ways, is in effect saying they don’t want to live by those rules. If that is their decision, then they have to accept the consequences of that decision. If that society decides that the penalty for those violations is death, then so be it. There are of course several other things that come into this conversation: prevention, real deterrent, better education, etc…. This has got to be the only place on the web where you can talk about WW,DTM and the death penalty in the same thread. Well, when in Felberland…

Adam/Mo: a most excellent show. I got to listen to it twice on Sirius and have the pod-cast as well. The best show in months.

As far as the death penalty, my feelings are that a person, who chooses to disregard the laws of our society, particularly in violent or vicious ways, is in effect saying they don’t want to live by those rules. If that is their decision, then they have to accept the consequences of that decision. If that society decides that the penalty for those violations is death, then so be it. There are of course several other things that come into this conversation: prevention, real deterrent, better education, etc….

]]> by: Katie http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22137 Tue, 19 Dec 2006 00:31:37 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22137 We had Egg Nog today at work (the virgin variety, sad to say) and one lady was running around asking if anyone had Nutmeg. "It's not Egg Nog without Nutmeg!" was her battle cry. Everytime she uttered the word "Nutmeg", I was swamped with hysterical laughter. I work in a HUGE cubicle farm, and it was very easy to imagine crazed, horny varments guzzling nog and flitting from cube to cube for frenzied fornication. Egg Nog, pumpkin pie, and fall potpourri will never be quite the same.... I listened to the show again this afternoon and it was still hysterically funny. Mo, your "verbal-stream-of-consciousness, I-don't-know-the-answer-but-if-I-keep-naming-enough-oddball-things-I'm-bound-to-get-it-right" bits are by far funnier than anything that could be scripted. Katie We had Egg Nog today at work (the virgin variety, sad to say) and one lady was running around asking if anyone had Nutmeg. “It’s not Egg Nog without Nutmeg!” was her battle cry. Everytime she uttered the word “Nutmeg”, I was swamped with hysterical laughter. I work in a HUGE cubicle farm, and it was very easy to imagine crazed, horny varments guzzling nog and flitting from cube to cube for frenzied fornication.

Egg Nog, pumpkin pie, and fall potpourri will never be quite the same….

I listened to the show again this afternoon and it was still hysterically funny.

Mo, your “verbal-stream-of-consciousness, I-don’t-know-the-answer-but-if-I-keep-naming-enough-oddball-things-I’m -bound-to-get-it-right” bits are by far funnier than anything that could be scripted.

Katie

]]> by: Lauren http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22130 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:03:58 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22130 Cooper, you may just be onto something there. . . Cooper, you may just be onto something there. . .

]]> by: cooper http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22125 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:23:06 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22125 Rope, Lauren. Light up rope. Adam, sorry, pal, but "Vietnamizatiion" is just not believable coming out of the President's mouth. <em>Way</em> too many syllables. Rope, Lauren. Light up rope.

Adam, sorry, pal, but “Vietnamizatiion” is just not believable coming out of the President’s mouth. Way too many syllables.

]]> by: Lauren http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22124 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:17:06 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22124 Hey, Rebecca. :) It's amazing, I don't smoke, either! But thus is the mighty Felber Power. Especially when that fantastic climax to the show was preceeded by those great bluffs by Adam/Mo. Whoof. We need to find some handy alternative for the tobacco-free. Light up Red Vines, or something. Hey, Rebecca. :) It’s amazing, I don’t smoke, either! But thus is the mighty Felber Power. Especially when that fantastic climax to the show was preceeded by those great bluffs by Adam/Mo. Whoof.

We need to find some handy alternative for the tobacco-free. Light up Red Vines, or something.

]]> by: Rebecca http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22122 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 02:51:58 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/12/15/la-return-after-la-return/#comment-22122 Landis, NPR puts the show up on the Wait Wait website on Saturday! (I only discovered this myself about two weeks ago.) The link is on the main page, middle-ish, in a light blue box where is says who the Not My Job guest is. (I don't get it on iTunes until Sunday night either.) Perhaps I shouldn't have called it a podcast. Website-cast? Oh, who knows. And I'm with Lauren on the needing of a cigarette after that lightning round. And I've never smoked in my life! It's amazing what kind of an impact Adam can have on me. Landis,
NPR puts the show up on the Wait Wait website on Saturday! (I only discovered this myself about two weeks ago.) The link is on the main page, middle-ish, in a light blue box where is says who the Not My Job guest is. (I don’t get it on iTunes until Sunday night either.) Perhaps I shouldn’t have called it a podcast. Website-cast? Oh, who knows.

And I’m with Lauren on the needing of a cigarette after that lightning round. And I’ve never smoked in my life! It’s amazing what kind of an impact Adam can have on me.

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