“Nasa has announced plans to build a permanent base on the moon by 2024,” where, the Bush administration said…
… we will be greeted as liberators.
… we will fight the terrorists so that we don’t have to fight them here.
… the President is enjoying higher approval ratings than anywhere else.
… we will be at the real center of the War on Terra.
… the oil industry can operate without those environmental nuts ruining everything.
… the weapons of mass destruction will be found.
… etc. Punch lines are easy here. In fact, punch lines are easy everywhere right now, which makes my life simultaneously easier and harder.
But I have to admit that our President has always been forward-looking with this moon-to-Mars stuff. In some ways, he’s been forward-looking in the same way he has been with the deficit and the debt, as in “paying for it is the next President’s problem. Or the one after that.”
[I should add that the fact that the first manned mission to the moon wouldn’t take place for another 14 years somewhat bolsters one of my F.A. colleague’s contention that we never went there in the first place… Me, I don’t buy it, as I see an airtight conspiracy as being even farther beyond our government’s grasp than the stars.]
And I’m sure there are lots of cynics out there pointing out that our last push to the moon served as a distraction to a deeply unpopular and unwinnable foreign war. [Then again, if there aren’t cynics out there pointing this out yet, please remember to give me credit when you pen your smart, cynical columns about this. It’s spelled F-E-L-B-E-R.] But I can’t bring myself to be caustic about space exploration and colonization. There’s an eight year-old inside of me (in fact, many have suggested, running me) who can’t get enough of this space stuff and can’t wait, in the early-2020’s, to be part of that necessary shipment of middle-aged comedy writers who will no doubt be called upon to help colonize the stars. That’s gonna be cool.
But most of all, I’m looking forward to the upcoming disputes, struggles, and - yes - wars that will surround the bizarre but unavoidable issue of extraterrestrial property rights. How much of the moon is the United States going to claim? How much is Finland entitled to (or will the climate be too “cushy” for them)? How much will Iran be entitled to (and will they have to lay on their backs to pray)?
Me, I can’t wait for this - seeing the hordes of petty, squabbling, bureaucratic humanity truly taking their fight “outside” for the first time, well, that’s going to a lot of fun, at least for those of us who get our fun by being constantly appalled at the conduct of our fellow man.
And here’s the ironic thing - I’m not being ironic here. If we go ahead with our moon base, lunar land rights are going to be one of the big issues of the middle part of this century. You laugh now, but you’ll start hearing about it within a decade or so, and soon nearby outer space will be thoroughly lawyered-up, and then I expect you to come back here and apologize.
Of course, I probably won’t be hanging around this site all that often, as I expect to busy preparing with my fellow moon-bound comedy writers - training ourselves for low gravity, selecting our “lunar harems” of genetically gifted cuties with whom we will populate the stars, and explaining that latter detail to our wives and husbands. That’s going to take up a lot of my time.
And yes, I realize that this whole “comedy writers in space” thing is a bit of a long shot, but you have to admit that we could do a lot worse. In fact, we’re going to.





59 comments
nato
December 5, 2006 at 1:17 pm
1So can we use the lunar base as a new Australia? Somewhere to send all of our criminals, undesirables and comedy writers?
Ann
December 5, 2006 at 1:20 pm
2I say “first come, first served” and let those pesky Finns find their own damned satellite.
Rebecca
December 5, 2006 at 1:33 pm
3I’d say it’d be less of an Australia and more of a New Hollywood or New Washington D.C. - all the stars, rich people and politicians (…… and comedy writers, I guess, just for Adam) will all move to the moon, leaving all the rest of us to do whatever the heck we want here on Earth with better politics, foreign policy, business ethics and entertainment than we have now (except for everything Adam does, which we’ll all make sure to get secretly acquire through the black market) (or something like that).
The War on Terra totally cracks me up.
Harold
December 5, 2006 at 1:46 pm
4I believe that there already is a treaty governing sharing the Moon’s resources. I seem to recall that it’s bad enough to make me shout “Commies!” I think it basically says that all nations have an equal right to and share of the Moon’s resources, even those who made no efforts, took no risks, and incurred no expense in getting there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_Treaty
If one of your colleagues really and truly believes that the Moon landings were a fake, allow me to intoduce him/her/Fanny to Phil Plait of Bad Astronomy:
http://www.badastronomy.com/
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
And one correction: the last push to the Moon wasn’t a distraction from Vietnam. It was an integral part of the Cold War, demonstrating to the Russkies and the rest of the world that we could take a missile and have it drop its payload precisely where we wanted it, wherever that may be - even on the Moon. Substitute “lunar module” with “nuclear warhead” and “Sea of Tranquility” with “Red Square”, Ivan!
Hmmm, come to think of it, there is a definite lunar connection to Islam. Maybe this really is a strategic exercise in the War On Isla- I mean, War On Terror.
Harold
December 5, 2006 at 1:48 pm
5Damn you, moderation queue!
Anybody out there know how to create a “whitelist”?
Harold
December 5, 2006 at 1:53 pm
6Summary of moderated comment:
- There is already a treaty governing use of the Moon. Unratified and esentially im*po*te*nt.
- Phil Plait’s Bad Astronomy might help to cure anyone who belives the Apollo Landings were a hoax. Or they may choose to persist in thir error. It’s a free country. Used to be, anyway.
- Apollo program was an integral part of the Cold War.
But the actual comment was much more clever and charming.
It's Pat!
December 5, 2006 at 2:43 pm
7I bought the moon on Ebay. Go find your own planet/asteroid/lunar thingie. This one’s mine.
Hugh
December 5, 2006 at 3:20 pm
8The moon landing was a complete hoax. Astronauts could not have survived the blistering radiation of the Van Halen belts.
David
December 5, 2006 at 3:43 pm
9The Van Halen radiation belt is a hoax, according to Wackapedalit, a little known website with scads of intriguing corrective info.
I bought the moon 40 years ago from a guy in the Bowery trying to wash my windshield with spit and a dirty handkerchief, so your E-bay bill of sale is of no value, It’s Pat! I have witnesses. So get your refund while you still can.
David
December 5, 2006 at 3:45 pm
10I meant Van Allen, dammit. Curse you, Hugh.
dee
December 5, 2006 at 4:07 pm
11I find the idea of a “Van Halen Belt” rather intriguing.
Rocket Scientist: The radiation in these areas still represents a danger to astronauts. How can we cross through them safely?
Fifty Billion Listeners to Oldies Stations: Might as well Jump.
cooper
December 5, 2006 at 4:41 pm
12dee, that’s good!
If we’re going to colonize the moon, we’ll need some of these eventually.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.islandnet.com/~pacif ic/pigs_in.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.islandnet.com/~pacific/spacepig.ht ml&h=241&w=359&sz=21&tbnid=Siu0rIRGQPI5MM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=121&prev=/imag es%3Fq%3Dpigs%2Bin%2Bspace&start=3&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=3
And some more of those Unitarians in Medieval garb to bring them properly into the dining hall.
cooper
December 5, 2006 at 4:52 pm
13Okay, the phrase (”Unitarians in Medieval garb”) apparently trips the spam filter. Or maybe it’s the url I pasted into the comment that is 4 lines long.
Here, Fanny. Come here, sweetheart. Ol’ Dad’s got a surprise for you!
Mojo
December 5, 2006 at 5:11 pm
14Since we at FA already have an orbital launch capability nearly developed (at least to the point of having some graphics and catchy phrases and even a theme song), we’re perfectly placed to profit from this announcement. I say sell Project Space Force to Lockheed and spend the profits on Maker’s Mark.
Jim (OJNTNJ)
December 5, 2006 at 5:33 pm
15Van Halen Belt: David Lee Roth (circa “Jump”) needed one.
Sammy Hagar, not so much.
cooper
December 5, 2006 at 6:20 pm
16“pesky Finns”, Ann? Uh-oh, you may have crossed a line here. I hope Mika Hakkinen doesn’t hear about your careless slip of the lip! He has no sense of humor whatsoever. Best hire a few guys with thick necks for a while, just to be on the safe side. I think Vinnie is free until the first week in February.
Doc Nagel
December 5, 2006 at 7:53 pm
17Comedy writers in space could be the essential purpose space exploration has been waiting for all these years. If some things are funnier on the moon (and why not? some things are funnier when you’ve been drinking), this could provide the key to understanding the deepest mysteries of comedy on earth, and even, dare I say it, the origin of comedy in the universe!
SeattleDan
December 5, 2006 at 8:25 pm
18Natural resources of the moon? If there had been oil up there, we’d had a base there in the ’70’s.
I’d like to go, too. Hmm. Fourteen years from now? I’ll be 70+, suckling at the SS teat. But I’d still like to go. We could blast the old booksellers out to the moon, and pose a real threat to Amazon.
OT, and BTW, Tammy’s store, from which we derive a paycheck, Seattle Mystery Bookshop, is hosting David Ossman of Firesign Theatre, tomorrow (or today, depending on when you read this), Wednesday, the 6th. He’s written a mystery, “The Ronald Reagan Murder Case”, featuring George Tirebiter, crime solver. It is, incidentally, Mr. Ossman’s 70th birthday. Tammy will be happy to relay any greetings you may wish to send. Click on the profile to find the website for SMB, and email your greetings, and Tammy will print them out. Shoes for industry, compadre!
SeattleDan
December 5, 2006 at 8:25 pm
19Oh, and Dave O. will be at the shop from noon to one-thirty PST.
hedera
December 5, 2006 at 8:45 pm
20Shoes for the dead, Dan! More power to Mr. Tirebiter!
Harold
December 5, 2006 at 8:47 pm
21I don’t know about the Van Halen belt - although I believe dear Eddie has had more than a few belts in his time, even after he allegedly sobered up. But I do know that a Foreigner belt can be used to rid the Earth of pesky Moononites.
Please tell me I’m not the only one here who watches Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
SeattleDan
December 5, 2006 at 8:59 pm
22Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Harold? What the heck is that? Is it on Showtime or HBO?
meantim
December 5, 2006 at 10:29 pm
23Aqua Teen Hunger Force is number one in the hood, gee.
Dale
December 5, 2006 at 10:43 pm
24In zero gravity, do you really need something to keep your pants up?
I would think wedgies would be a more pressing problem than unintentionally…um, “mooning” anybody.
(Btw, the Van Han belt goes great with a Bowie tie.)
Dale
December 5, 2006 at 11:21 pm
25Also the Van Halen belt.
Katchu
December 6, 2006 at 2:21 am
26The original quest to the moon cost $10 Billion. That’s about 2 months worth of the Iraq war. We could have 6 missions to the moon per year (from scratch) for what we are spending in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Oh, well.
你看什么看?
December 6, 2006 at 4:31 am
27I relate to Adam’s inner eight year-old. Going to the moon and Mars would be special. Let’s forget about those other problems.
Chinese will do it first.
Harold
December 6, 2006 at 6:36 am
28SeattleDan, ATHF is on Cartoon Network’s Adult Swim late-night block.
Harold
December 6, 2006 at 6:39 am
29By the way, in case anyone is serious about the Van Allen belt claim, Phil Plait addresses that directly, and gives some good links:
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html#radiation
Murray
December 6, 2006 at 7:25 am
30The science channel did a special about the lunar “hoax”. One of the claims was that the Van Allen belt had such strong radiation that an astronaut would be spam in a can before he got to the moon. So they had Dr. Van Allen to comment on this idea. He laughed. He pointed out that he probably knew more about the radiation belt than the hoax mongers, and that the amount of danger was fairly low.
The final thing they pointed out was that if you aim a laser at the Apollo 17 landing site, it will reflect back. They left a huge reflector there to be able to take exact measurements on the moon’s distance and it would be hard to fake a physical object that any one could see.
Murray
December 6, 2006 at 8:46 am
31I suggest that this is a good way to further the Rapture. Send those people who are sure that they will be lifted into the sky, into the sky, so that the rest of us can live in peace and restore sanity to the earth.
(I apologize to all those I have offended with this post). (On the other hand I find people trying to save my soul and trying to legislate their morality, offensive to me).
Would comedy be funnier in space? Perhaps if they are breathing helium.
And BTW, as a kid growing up in the 60s, I was promised moon bases by the time I was through college and we would be on Mars when my children would be in school.
My grand children will be in college by the time we have a base on the moon.
And yes, for a small fraction of what we are throwing down a rat (black) hole in Iraq, we could go back to the moon, but that’s not how things work. With Republicans in charge, there are infinite dollars for war, and zero dollars for peace, (which includes worthwhile projects like space and scientific research). This is how we get to be a failed nation in the future.
Ann
December 6, 2006 at 11:12 am
32Harold, I have indeed watched ATHF, but I certainly wouldn’t claim to “watch” it. I leave that to my college-age nephews. Speaking of which, one of them was the recipient of the James A. Van Allen Award, which he received from the hands of the Prof himself.
No word on the Van Halen Award.
Chris Regan
December 6, 2006 at 2:08 pm
33Going to the “moon?” Your call time is 8PM tonight–on the soundstage at Area 57!
I envy your innocence, Adam.
Hugh
December 6, 2006 at 3:52 pm
34Studying moon rocks = Van Allen Award.
Studying moon, rocks = Van Halen Award.
(Have you seen Junior’s grades?)
Dick the Butcher
December 6, 2006 at 5:19 pm
35Comedy writers in space? I think not. The first thing we do, let’s launch all the lawyers!
tess
December 6, 2006 at 6:01 pm
36Murray,
Reminds me of what happened when some Jehovah’s Witnesses dropped by. They confused the hell out of my mom because they spoke Mandarin, so my mom replied, “Oh, I don’t know anything about religion. Why don’t you ask my husband?” So my dad talked to them, and the snippets I heard translated to a heated argument along the lines of, “You say your god’s in heaven, but we’ve sent spaceships up to the heavens. Where is your god?”
They haven’t been back since.
hedera
December 6, 2006 at 6:09 pm
37What interesting Jehovah’s Witnesses you get, tess. The ones I get are usually earnest, kindly looking black people dressed in their Sunday best, the ladies in flowered dresses. I never get anyone who speaks Mandarin.
gillian
December 6, 2006 at 6:59 pm
38Mary Cheney’s pregnant? Is there a doctor in the house? How the hell can that happen?
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/06/us/06cnd-cheney.html?hp&ex=116546760 0&en=40d57c6218a62fb4&ei=5094&partner=homepage
Dale
December 6, 2006 at 7:13 pm
39You know how it is with those Virgin (or at least not sleeping with men) Marys at this time of year. (Anybody else thinking Antichrist?)
SeattleDan
December 6, 2006 at 9:47 pm
40Well, the weblog award nominations are out
And I note FA isn’t nominated. It’s the only award for blogs that nominates best commenters, and I sadly note, we’re not nominated. Next year, we must make a concerted effort to get America’s favorite blog the recognition it deserves.
tess
December 7, 2006 at 12:13 am
41hedera,
They were trying to recruit/convert/brainwash more people, and so they had to start aiming at minorities (like my parents). My mother did comment on the woman’s ability to speak Mandarin despite being born in the US (probably wondering why her own kids can’t speak it as well).
Though I have to wonder about all those fundies who take things literally — if there’s a heaven, and heavens supposed to be “up,” and we’ve been to space, then where the hell is it?
Boomer
December 7, 2006 at 4:25 am
42tess, these people are fundamentalists because, following even a moderately long train of thought, is a life-skill they have yet to acquire. These same people should also stay out of shell games when the carnival comes to town.
cooper
December 7, 2006 at 5:00 am
43Anyone else think that the Iraq Study Group is just more of the same Kabuki theater we’ve come to expect from the Bushies?
David
December 7, 2006 at 7:10 am
44cooper,
I lean toward Holy shit, what do we do now without facing reality in any truly meaningful way, and certainly without admitting what we did, or why. So make my vote homicidally amateurish Anglo-imperial Kabuki (doodah, doodah).
Side note on the JWs. Because they believe they are ambassadors from God, they do not participate in secular politics, so they don’t vote. Hence they are of no value to Karl Rove or the rest of the Republican machine.
Ann,
Major congrats to your nephew. That qualifies for reason-based family bragging rights.
GW
December 7, 2006 at 10:02 am
45Damn, why did they have to make this a chapter book instead of a graphic novel?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/0307386562/ref=dp_otherviews_0 /103-2550355-6915802?ie=UTF8&s=books&img=0
I’ll bet that devil Nancy Pelosi is behind this. Maybe they have this book on tape. Laura, get Amazon on the phone.
Rebecca
December 7, 2006 at 10:28 am
46A graphic novel of the Iraq Study Group (linked by good ol’ GW above) would certainly be just that - graphic. Graphic in pictures, graphic in content, graphic in emotions.
David
December 7, 2006 at 1:56 pm
47The Iraq Study Group wants privatization of Iraqi oil. It’s about the buried treasure first and foremost. Death and destruction are of secondary importance to these people. Winning means winning private control of the oil by the multinationals. Losing means losing private control of the oil by the multinationals. Everything else borders on blather, I’m afraid.
David
December 7, 2006 at 3:08 pm
48Just found this commentary on Common Dreams. It is one damned compelling read.
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1207-22.htm
SeattleDan
December 7, 2006 at 6:01 pm
49Thanks for the link, David. I’ve been sharing it.
Dirk's Diary
December 7, 2006 at 6:22 pm
50Well, it sure is strange to be here in DC again after running things back home for the last eight years. There, I was in charge; here, I’m just another cog in the wheel. I miss the West, but to carry out my ambitious plans, I needed to have a national platform. So here I am, back in Washington - for good or ill. I’d better get moving; there’s tits to pull and hay to pitch. I’ll write again soon, diary.
David
December 8, 2006 at 6:10 am
51Ambrose Bierce v. Tony Snow, anyone?
“It seems that ‘we have never gone to war for conquest, for exploitation, nor for territory’; we have the word of a president [McKinley] for that. Observe, now, how Providence overrules the intentions of the truly good for their advantage. We went to war with Mexico for peace, humanity and honor, yet emerged from the contest with an extension of territory beyond the dreams of political avarice. We went to war with Spain for relief of an oppressed people [the Cubans], and at the close found ourselves in possession of vast and rich insular dependencies [primarily the Philippines] and with a pretty tight grasp upon the country for relief of whose
oppressed people we took up arms. We could hardly have profited more had ‘territorial aggrandizement’ been the spirit of our purpose and heart of our hope. The slightest acquaintance with history shows that powerful republics are the most warlike and
unscrupulous of nations.” - Ambrose Bierce, Warlike America
David
December 8, 2006 at 7:37 am
52Antonia Juhasz, in an op ed in the LA Times, said it better - and more authoritatively - than I:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-juhasz8dec08,0,4717508.story ?coll=la-opinion-center
siobhan
December 9, 2006 at 7:54 pm
53Just had to take a glance at the video of tonight’s shuttle launch. The only thing cooler than a shuttle launch has to be a nighttime launch.
I still wanna be an astronaut.
David
December 10, 2006 at 7:57 am
54Wish you guys could have been with us watching it live. Even better would have been the entire FA contingent over at Titusville having the launch shake the living shit out of us. What happens with the space program, especially the purposes for which it continues to be developed, is a direct function of who we have enough sense to put in the White House. So please, no more Star Wars presidents.
dee
December 10, 2006 at 11:03 am
55Supposedly one can see a night launch from the southern end of Topsail Island, and while I can usually find any excuse to go to the beach, I passed on this one.
During WWII Topsail Island was nothing more than a rocket testing site. Some of the observation towers still exist today. At one time it was under consideration to be THE site for launching rockets into space, but NASA decided the island was too prone to hurricane damage. So they moved everything to Florida.
Yes. Makes perfect sense to me, too.
Landis
December 10, 2006 at 2:23 pm
56Glad you guys enjoyed the launch too. We went out to dinner at a brewery and saw three TVs on some sports news. Asked them to change one to the launch. After they finally found it on CNN it was interesting to watch everyone in the bar ignore the sports and get all excited about the launch. Everything slowed down for about 5 minutes right as it happened. Pretty cool.
David
December 10, 2006 at 5:33 pm
57Way cool, Landis.
dee,
I have to believe it is true you could see that sucker from Topsail Island if the sky were clear. From the family homestead in Goldenrod (30-35 miles), the trail of flame was like 4-6 inches long and an inch wide, and very, very bright. And the glowing first stage exhausts after separation were like two small orange buttons, clearly visible. And since this one arced northeast out over the Atlantic, if the sky was clear, I could imagine people on Hatteras seeing it. I have to look up Topsail Island.
I think Cape Canaveral might also have been chosen because of the amount of flat, undeveloped land at the time. Other than that, yeah, right, safe from hurricanes….
True Patriot
December 13, 2006 at 8:12 am
58Hmm.
I don’t trust The Bush League as far as I can spit, and that’s not very far, me not being from a tobacco-chewin’ state. Let’s not forget that the real scientists were all saying that we needed a permanent space station to act as a launching platform for going to the moon, to Mars, or anywhere else. The Bush League wants to piss away more billions of dollars going back to the moon instead of establishing a usable industrial presence in orbit, where we can make some long green by using the microgravity environment to great advantage in manufacturing electronics, medicines, etc.
Space is a great place to make some money, but not if you’re going to waste your time going to the moon or Mars or some useless place like that. I wanna go to the asteroids, where precious metals and stuff lie around waiting to be picked up (essentially). No ecology to worry about, neither. Yee, hah! Strip mining, here we come!
Carl from L.A.
December 15, 2006 at 3:55 pm
59Why a permanent base on the moon?
The answer seems obvious to me. No extradition treaty with the moon for war crimes.