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	<title>Comments on: Election Day Semi-Open Thread</title>
	<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/11/07/election-day-semi-open-thread/</link>
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		<title>by: FANNY PLEASE HELP!</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/11/07/election-day-semi-open-thread/#comment-21966</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>How the heck did THAT make it past Fanny and the moderation queue?</description>
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		<title>by: David</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/11/07/election-day-semi-open-thread/#comment-21369</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>myflorida.voterfraud - belongs right there on our license plates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>myflorida.voterfraud - belongs right there on our license plates.
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		<title>by: Dale</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/11/07/election-day-semi-open-thread/#comment-21363</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oops, I misread siobhan's post and thought that electronic voting  machines appeared to have eaten many thousand voters. 

It's a nice image, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I misread siobhan&#8217;s post and thought that electronic voting  machines appeared to have eaten many thousand voters. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a nice image, though.
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		<title>by: siobhan</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/11/07/election-day-semi-open-thread/#comment-21358</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>In a similar vein, electronic voting machines in Florida appear to have eaten many thousand votes in a close house race (FL-13).  Legal action appears to be forthcoming to freeze the machines for inspection; further challenges may be on the way.  &lt;a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/15/115716/58" rel="nofollow"&gt; More info&lt;/a&gt; on DKos.  &lt;a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/14/142242/76" rel="nofollow"&gt;(additional background here.)&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a similar vein, electronic voting machines in Florida appear to have eaten many thousand votes in a close house race (FL-13).  Legal action appears to be forthcoming to freeze the machines for inspection; further challenges may be on the way.  <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/15/115716/58" rel="nofollow"> More info</a> on DKos.  <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/14/142242/76" rel="nofollow">(additional background here.)</a>
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		<title>by: Murray</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/11/07/election-day-semi-open-thread/#comment-21342</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/11/07/election-day-semi-open-thread/#comment-21342</guid>
					<description>Harold (#109), Tony Barr is an electable name, Murray Schrotenboer is not.

WF. I'm sure you wouldn't be intimidated at the polling place and I'm sure you don't think about race. You don't have to. If you applied for a job but didn't get it, you would assume that they hired someone more qualified; if you are black you assume they hired someone white. When you shop, store security doesn't follow you around. When you drive through an affluent neighborhood the cops don't stop you to find out why you would be there. You probably don't have a great uncle who was lynched for not getting off the sidewalk when an important white person walked by. Your parents probably didn't tell you stories about Tuskegee experiments. If you are white, you don't think about race, if you are black you can't not think about it. So if there is a police car at the polling place and he is checking everyone's ID, you might assert your rights, but your aunt Fay might rather just go home and not take any chances. 

They aren’t looking to intimidate everyone, just enough to make a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harold (#109), Tony Barr is an electable name, Murray Schrotenboer is not.</p>
<p>WF. I&#8217;m sure you wouldn&#8217;t be intimidated at the polling place and I&#8217;m sure you don&#8217;t think about race. You don&#8217;t have to. If you applied for a job but didn&#8217;t get it, you would assume that they hired someone more qualified; if you are black you assume they hired someone white. When you shop, store security doesn&#8217;t follow you around. When you drive through an affluent neighborhood the cops don&#8217;t stop you to find out why you would be there. You probably don&#8217;t have a great uncle who was lynched for not getting off the sidewalk when an important white person walked by. Your parents probably didn&#8217;t tell you stories about Tuskegee experiments. If you are white, you don&#8217;t think about race, if you are black you can&#8217;t not think about it. So if there is a police car at the polling place and he is checking everyone&#8217;s ID, you might assert your rights, but your aunt Fay might rather just go home and not take any chances. </p>
<p>They aren’t looking to intimidate everyone, just enough to make a difference.
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		<title>by: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/11/07/election-day-semi-open-thread/#comment-21294</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/11/07/election-day-semi-open-thread/#comment-21294</guid>
					<description>I would have to say that intimidation is in the eye of the beholder, or in this case, the one being intimidated.  While these things wouldn’t intimidate me either, that doesn’t really matter does it?  What matters is that there are still people who feel that others are not “smart” or “informed” or “educated” enough to vote.  

Before you go crazy over that, I think the only good electorate is a well informed and well educated one.  However, who decides who is well enough educated?  Who do we get to enforce those kinds of vague guidelines?  It is well known that the founding fathers did not want the “rabble” to decide who was President, note the Electoral College, but I like to think we have come a long way since then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to say that intimidation is in the eye of the beholder, or in this case, the one being intimidated.  While these things wouldn’t intimidate me either, that doesn’t really matter does it?  What matters is that there are still people who feel that others are not “smart” or “informed” or “educated” enough to vote.  </p>
<p>Before you go crazy over that, I think the only good electorate is a well informed and well educated one.  However, who decides who is well enough educated?  Who do we get to enforce those kinds of vague guidelines?  It is well known that the founding fathers did not want the “rabble” to decide who was President, note the Electoral College, but I like to think we have come a long way since then.
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		<title>by: waterfowler</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/11/07/election-day-semi-open-thread/#comment-21291</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>nato, he did get better grades than the one you voted for in '04.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nato, he did get better grades than the one you voted for in &#8216;04.
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		<title>by: nato</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/11/07/election-day-semi-open-thread/#comment-21287</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 23:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/11/07/election-day-semi-open-thread/#comment-21287</guid>
					<description>You're so right, Fowler.  Hey, I have an idea -- let's require a literacy and basic skills test before letting people vote.  We'll need an exemption for the President, of course.  This whole democracy thing just gets in the way of good government for you, doesn't it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re so right, Fowler.  Hey, I have an idea &#8212; let&#8217;s require a literacy and basic skills test before letting people vote.  We&#8217;ll need an exemption for the President, of course.  This whole democracy thing just gets in the way of good government for you, doesn&#8217;t it?
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		<title>by: dee</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/11/07/election-day-semi-open-thread/#comment-21286</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 21:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/11/07/election-day-semi-open-thread/#comment-21286</guid>
					<description>What a difference two years makes!  I only wish we still had access to the comments for &lt;a href="http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/11/03/concession-speech/" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, but a glimpse at the Trackbacks will give those of you who weren't around back then and idea of the responses it generated.  

So may I be the &lt;b&gt;second&lt;/b&gt; to say "Felber in '08!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a difference two years makes!  I only wish we still had access to the comments for <a href="http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/11/03/concession-speech/" rel="nofollow">this</a>, but a glimpse at the Trackbacks will give those of you who weren&#8217;t around back then and idea of the responses it generated.  </p>
<p>So may I be the <b>second</b> to say &#8220;Felber in &#8216;08!&#8221;
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		<title>by: waterfowler</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/11/07/election-day-semi-open-thread/#comment-21282</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/11/07/election-day-semi-open-thread/#comment-21282</guid>
					<description>That doesn't seem too intimidating. Plus, if anyone falls for that kind of crap, they shouldn't be allowed to vote. They're obviously uninformed and gullible and would probably vote Dem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That doesn&#8217;t seem too intimidating. Plus, if anyone falls for that kind of crap, they shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to vote. They&#8217;re obviously uninformed and gullible and would probably vote Dem.
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