Comments on: Taking you back… http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/ America's favorite blog Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:45:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: RRRRyan http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14291 Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:49:45 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14291 He was the "guy" who tried to "gag" Hansen right? LOL, yep on the second half. He was the “guy” who tried to “gag” Hansen right?

LOL, yep on the second half.

]]> by: Jim http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14256 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:25:54 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14256 RRRRRyan, Talk about torture. A quick tip: Google "George Deutsch" and "nasa" (be sure to include the quote marks - it will narrow the results). BTW: If Dr. Hansen is "Bush's top climate modeler" compared to say..Nasa's top climate modeler, I bet he wishes he wasn't by now.:-) RRRRRyan,

Talk about torture. A quick tip: Google “George Deutsch” and “nasa” (be sure to include the quote marks - it will narrow the results).

BTW: If Dr. Hansen is “Bush’s top climate modeler” compared to say..Nasa’s top climate modeler, I bet he wishes he wasn’t by now.:-)

]]> by: RRRRyan http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14247 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:52:05 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14247 Ooops. apparently he is THE director. Okay, then now the question is who at NASA gags THE director? Something is really fishy here and I'm determined to get to the bottom of it. So the claim that the Bush administration tried to gag him started with a public affairs guy who talked to Hansen after he presented. How is that THE Bush administration? Wow, ... something really fishy here. I promise this is my last post on this tangent. It seems okay though since this is now an old thread. Ooops. apparently he is THE director. Okay, then now the question is who at NASA gags THE director? Something is really fishy here and I’m determined to get to the bottom of it. So the claim that the Bush administration tried to gag him started with a public affairs guy who talked to Hansen after he presented. How is that THE Bush administration? Wow, … something really fishy here.

I promise this is my last post on this tangent. It seems okay though since this is now an old thread.

]]> by: RRRRyan http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14244 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:43:57 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14244 You know, if President Bush is ignoring his "top climate modeler" that is quite disturbing. This topic is very hard to research because the common dreams article appears to be a pseudo copy of about a hundred other virtually identical articles that apparently originated in the New York Times (surprise!). To make the "Bush's top climate modeler" claim, wouldn't that mean that Bush has some say in the matter? Would Bush trying to "gag" him be demotion? Did Dr. Hansen make that claim or was it artistic license? It really boils down to non-news. Bush himself had nothing to do with the "gag order" and apparently nothing at all was gagged, in fact quite the opposite happened. There are dozens of climate modelers at NASA and Dr. Hansen is the ONE making these claims. It's amazing how that caused him to become "Bush's top climate modeler" and "THE director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York". Exaggeration is a sure sign of non-news that is trying hard to bleed. You know, if President Bush is ignoring his “top climate modeler” that is quite disturbing. This topic is very hard to research because the common dreams article appears to be a pseudo copy of about a hundred other virtually identical articles that apparently originated in the New York Times (surprise!). To make the “Bush’s top climate modeler” claim, wouldn’t that mean that Bush has some say in the matter? Would Bush trying to “gag” him be demotion? Did Dr. Hansen make that claim or was it artistic license?

It really boils down to non-news. Bush himself had nothing to do with the “gag order” and apparently nothing at all was gagged, in fact quite the opposite happened. There are dozens of climate modelers at NASA and Dr. Hansen is the ONE making these claims. It’s amazing how that caused him to become “Bush’s top climate modeler” and “THE director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York”. Exaggeration is a sure sign of non-news that is trying hard to bleed.

]]> by: RRRRyan http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14241 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:23:03 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14241 Thanks Jim, there still is no substantiations of this statement: “Jim Hansen, the director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, is President George Bush’s top climate modeller.” .5 degrees in 40 years? 1 degree in a hundred? Well, it appears the current cycle is increasing, but considering we went 2 straight weeks with record lows where I live I still don't buy the fuss. In fact in 1990 the average temperature dropped about .4 degrees and didn't recover again until 1995. That chart was fascinating. There is some serious extrapolation going on, specifically the idea that the observed pattern shows a .5 degree increase in 40 years but he is predicting up to a full 1 degree increase in the next 20 most of which appears to be justified by the steep climb during the 1990-1995 recovery. I'll concede, if the temperature does increase 1 degree by 2019 I may give this credence. Thanks Jim, there still is no substantiations of this statement:

“Jim Hansen, the director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, is President George Bush’s top climate modeller.”

.5 degrees in 40 years? 1 degree in a hundred? Well, it appears the current cycle is increasing, but considering we went 2 straight weeks with record lows where I live I still don’t buy the fuss. In fact in 1990 the average temperature dropped about .4 degrees and didn’t recover again until 1995. That chart was fascinating. There is some serious extrapolation going on, specifically the idea that the observed pattern shows a .5 degree increase in 40 years but he is predicting up to a full 1 degree increase in the next 20 most of which appears to be justified by the steep climb during the 1990-1995 recovery. I’ll concede, if the temperature does increase 1 degree by 2019 I may give this credence.

]]> by: Jim http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14200 Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:35:41 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14200 Make that far right wing blogsters (after all I'm a conservative on some issues after all ;-)) Make that far right wing blogsters (after all I’m a conservative on some issues after all ;-) )

]]> by: Jim http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14197 Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:16:48 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14197 Um RRRRyan, Coupla links: From Nasa...go to the bottom of the page and look at the resource materials in re global warming debate. http://www.giss.nasa.gov/edu/ And from the Congressional site: http://www.house.gov/science/press/109/109-184.htm Shortly after Representative Boehlert sent this letter, George Deutsch the 25 year old public affairs officer for NASA (Who was appointed by the Bush administration after working on the 2004 reelection campaign) who was accused of stifling Dr. Hansen's report, resigned after it was revealed that he lied on his resume and did not, in fact, actually graduate from Texas A&M. Would you mind doing your own fact-checking from here on out? I'm busy debunking the conservative blogsters. Thanks Um RRRRyan,

Coupla links: From Nasa…go to the bottom of the page and look at the resource materials in re global warming debate.
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/edu/

And from the Congressional site:
http://www.house.gov/science/press/109/109-184.htm

Shortly after Representative Boehlert sent this letter, George Deutsch the 25 year old public affairs officer for NASA (Who was appointed by the Bush administration after working on the 2004 reelection campaign) who was accused of stifling Dr. Hansen’s report, resigned after it was revealed that he lied on his resume and did not, in fact, actually graduate from Texas A&M.

Would you mind doing your own fact-checking from here on out? I’m busy debunking the conservative blogsters.

Thanks

]]> by: RRRRyan http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14171 Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:10:58 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14171 On the subject of torture, that article in the NYT was interesting. For as long as it was it doesn't describe any methods of torture, it just says the word twice. Are they calling his captivity in itself torture? This is the right track, at least we're looking at somewhat substantiated claims now. Thanks for the link on Jim Hansen. I'm still looking for some substantiation of these claims: "Jim Hansen, the director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, is President George Bush's top climate modeller. " It frankly smells of bovine scat. To be THE director of GISS and be a climatologist would be quite an accomplishment. To concede one thing, this guy seems more substantial than the MIT guy. On the subject of torture, that article in the NYT was interesting. For as long as it was it doesn’t describe any methods of torture, it just says the word twice. Are they calling his captivity in itself torture? This is the right track, at least we’re looking at somewhat substantiated claims now.

Thanks for the link on Jim Hansen. I’m still looking for some substantiation of these claims:

“Jim Hansen, the director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, is President George Bush’s top climate modeller. ”

It frankly smells of bovine scat. To be THE director of GISS and be a climatologist would be quite an accomplishment.

To concede one thing, this guy seems more substantial than the MIT guy.

]]> by: David http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14134 Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:14:45 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14134 Amen, Auros. The requisite mental gymnastics are truly breathtaking (and possibly neck breaking). Yeah, Jim, how 'bout them Steelers. Hope Mrs. Heinz Kerry threw a serious party. She is such a cool lady. I honestly thought that torture at Gitmo bordered on common knowledge, but then I live on the edge (of the Green Swamp). Amen, Auros. The requisite mental gymnastics are truly breathtaking (and possibly neck breaking).

Yeah, Jim, how ’bout them Steelers. Hope Mrs. Heinz Kerry threw a serious party. She is such a cool lady. I honestly thought that torture at Gitmo bordered on common knowledge, but then I live on the edge (of the Green Swamp).

]]> by: Jim http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14123 Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:19:07 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/16/taking-you-back/#comment-14123 Momentary off-topic alert! (sorry Adam but someone requested this information earlier). RRRRyan, here is a link the Dr. Hansen's personnel page at NASA. I don't believe the 25 year old climate researcher from MIT is the same person: http://www.giss.nasa.gov/staff/jhansen.html O.K. Back on topic, how bout them Steelers...wha?..oh, sorry, heh, wrong thread. Marie Cocco (sp?)had a column regarding the analysis of the military's own findings regarding the allegations against the "enemy combatants" at GITMO. Quite interesting. I haven't checked on-line (it was in Today's Oregonian), but you should be able to Google it. Momentary off-topic alert! (sorry Adam but someone requested this information earlier).

RRRRyan, here is a link the Dr. Hansen’s personnel page at NASA. I don’t believe the 25 year old climate researcher from MIT is the same person:

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/staff/jhansen.html

O.K. Back on topic, how bout them Steelers…wha?..oh, sorry, heh, wrong thread.

Marie Cocco (sp?)had a column regarding the analysis of the military’s own findings regarding the allegations against the “enemy combatants” at GITMO. Quite interesting. I haven’t checked on-line (it was in Today’s Oregonian), but you should be able to Google it.

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