Comments on: Analysis: Cheney Gores non-Quail in Bush http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/ America's favorite blog Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:25:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Angela http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14267 Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:53:45 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14267 Nice feeling here. Seems so refreshing. Nice feeling here. Seems so refreshing.

]]> by: Murray http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14169 Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:38:55 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14169 Here's the real question. Why did the cops let Cheney have a day before they deposed him? If he is so innocent why is he acting so guilty? This is what would happen in Balmer. http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0221-31.htm Here’s the real question. Why did the cops let Cheney have a day before they deposed him? If he is so innocent why is he acting so guilty?

This is what would happen in Balmer. http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0221-31.htm

]]> by: RRRRyan http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14065 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:04:26 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14065 o/ me2. God bless. o/ me2. God bless.

]]> by: David http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14059 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:45:36 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14059 RRRRyan, I never denied Christ. I denied the various disturbing interpretations of Christ. And I have yet to find any necessary or defining link between Christ and the various churches. I do find it in individuals who exhibit Christ's precepts in their lives, and that's the only place I am able to find it. I admire churches which do good things, dislike churches that do bad things, and believe we're all in this together, and that we're here to help each other through this thing called life, whatever it is. As the leader of the Arawaks, I think it was, asked as Christopher Columbus and company were burning him and other Arawaks while still alive, in response to a priest offering him the opportunity to accept Christ as his saviour so that he could avoid the torments of hell (the irony of this is just overwhelming), Are there going to be Christians in Heaven (it was a new concept to him)? When told Yes, he said, "Then I'd rather go to hell." Have to let it go at this. Gonna try to rein myself in at least a bit. I think I'm an over-poster. RRRRyan,

I never denied Christ. I denied the various disturbing interpretations of Christ. And I have yet to find any necessary or defining link between Christ and the various churches. I do find it in individuals who exhibit Christ’s precepts in their lives, and that’s the only place I am able to find it. I admire churches which do good things, dislike churches that do bad things, and believe we’re all in this together, and that we’re here to help each other through this thing called life, whatever it is.

As the leader of the Arawaks, I think it was, asked as Christopher Columbus and company were burning him and other Arawaks while still alive, in response to a priest offering him the opportunity to accept Christ as his saviour so that he could avoid the torments of hell (the irony of this is just overwhelming), Are there going to be Christians in Heaven (it was a new concept to him)? When told Yes, he said, “Then I’d rather go to hell.”

Have to let it go at this. Gonna try to rein myself in at least a bit. I think I’m an over-poster.

]]> by: Maximum Bob http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14057 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:43:17 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14057 RRRRyan, I hope you live a long life, but if you really want a guaranteed entree to heaven, then depart this earth a few minutes after Jimmy Carter. I figure he'll be rushed into heaven so fast that the 20 or 30 people behind him will be sucked in by the wake. I look forward to Bush's face on Mt. Rushmore. And I'm sure he looks forward to being stoned again. RRRRyan, I hope you live a long life, but if you really want a guaranteed entree to heaven, then depart this earth a few minutes after Jimmy Carter. I figure he’ll be rushed into heaven so fast that the 20 or 30 people behind him will be sucked in by the wake.

I look forward to Bush’s face on Mt. Rushmore. And I’m sure he looks forward to being stoned again.

]]> by: RRRRyan http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14045 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:54:23 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14045 Well, for the sake of disclosure I think their is something to Stephen's argument and believe that judgment day will be a surprise to us all. - Second, Ann, my point was Hell is not an example of a pacifist response to deceived people. It is not a "live and let live" philosophy. Anyone who claims that peace is the sole message of Christ does not know the message of Christ. The 3rd paragraph of post #131 and the following agreement is what I am responding to. That list is preposterous and shows a clear non-acquaintance with the Jesus of the Bible. In fact unrepentant self-proclaimed experts were exactly who Jesus had no tolerance for. Unfortunately, I suppose most people that post to this forum fall into the self-proclaimed expert category and the unrepentant part is probably the majority of today's society. :-\ David, being the author of post #131 has readily described his tinkering with religion and current opposition to the church in general. So all I'm saying is he can claim to be an expert in pornography, the use of foul language, and the caveats of the homosexual lifestyle but don't deny Christ and then proclaim his character at the same time. It is illogical. I did not say "You're all going to Hell" and I'm sure you will concede my purpose for the topic was not what you're accusing me of. Did anyone hear the plan to add Bush's mug to Mt. Rushmore? Shweet! Well, for the sake of disclosure I think their is something to Stephen’s argument and believe that judgment day will be a surprise to us all.

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Second, Ann, my point was Hell is not an example of a pacifist response to deceived people. It is not a “live and let live” philosophy.

Anyone who claims that peace is the sole message of Christ does not know the message of Christ. The 3rd paragraph of post #131 and the following agreement is what I am responding to. That list is preposterous and shows a clear non-acquaintance with the Jesus of the Bible. In fact unrepentant self-proclaimed experts were exactly who Jesus had no tolerance for. Unfortunately, I suppose most people that post to this forum fall into the self-proclaimed expert category and the unrepentant part is probably the majority of today’s society. :-\

David, being the author of post #131 has readily described his tinkering with religion and current opposition to the church in general. So all I’m saying is he can claim to be an expert in pornography, the use of foul language, and the caveats of the homosexual lifestyle but don’t deny Christ and then proclaim his character at the same time. It is illogical.

I did not say “You’re all going to Hell” and I’m sure you will concede my purpose for the topic was not what you’re accusing me of.

Did anyone hear the plan to add Bush’s mug to Mt. Rushmore? Shweet!

]]> by: Ann http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14042 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:21:46 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14042 RRRR, I believe that only a few of the posters here are actually "self-proclaimed agnostics and atheists" (why the modifier?); many of the posters have, in fact, identified themselves as Christians. And many of us agnostics and atheists were raised as Christians, so we're at least as familiar with conventional Christian doctrine as the vast majority of American Christians---and we can therefore talk about "the teachings of Jesus" with some justification. However, that's irrelevant to your apparent argument, which is that you can claim expertise on the positions of others with whom you disagree ("I think I just realized...")---although those others cannot---and your expert opinion is that those others don't really believe what they're saying (it's just "the joy of antagonizing Christians"). Whether all non-Christians are going to hell is indeed a theological debate that continues today among sincere Christians. I believe the Roman Catholic church says they are not. But again, you've managed to win the race to the bottom with the argument-trumping "You're all going to Hell!" threat. RRRR,
I believe that only a few of the posters here are actually “self-proclaimed agnostics and atheists” (why the modifier?); many of the posters have, in fact, identified themselves as Christians. And many of us agnostics and atheists were raised as Christians, so we’re at least as familiar with conventional Christian doctrine as the vast majority of American Christians—and we can therefore talk about “the teachings of Jesus” with some justification.

However, that’s irrelevant to your apparent argument, which is that you can claim expertise on the positions of others with whom you disagree (”I think I just realized…”)—although those others cannot—and your expert opinion is that those others don’t really believe what they’re saying (it’s just “the joy of antagonizing Christians”).

Whether all non-Christians are going to hell is indeed a theological debate that continues today among sincere Christians. I believe the Roman Catholic church says they are not. But again, you’ve managed to win the race to the bottom with the argument-trumping “You’re all going to Hell!” threat.

]]> by: Stephen http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14040 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:13:47 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14040 RRRyan, So do we only have two options now? We are either lily livered pacifists or we go to war? My point is that there are, and were, more than these two options. I don’t see how going to war makes us more Christ-like. While Christ is the Judge and I am sure that not everyone will be happy with their final destination, that doesn’t mean he is the tough, no-nonsense GUY he is made out to be by some people. You realize that automatic condemnation will put 2/3’s of the world’s population in Hell? I reject that idea 100%. That does not fit in with my understanding of Christ. Why condemn the poor man in mainland China or in the middle of Africa who never heard of him? Justice and Mercy in balance. I think He will look at what we did with what we know, and judge accordingly. I made the comment since I am neither an agnostic nor an atheist and therefore, according to your post, eligible to do so. I don’t mean to sound antagonistic or hateful, just one man's opinion. RRRyan,

So do we only have two options now? We are either lily livered pacifists or we go to war? My point is that there are, and were, more than these two options. I don’t see how going to war makes us more Christ-like.

While Christ is the Judge and I am sure that not everyone will be happy with their final destination, that doesn’t mean he is the tough, no-nonsense GUY he is made out to be by some people. You realize that automatic condemnation will put 2/3’s of the world’s population in Hell? I reject that idea 100%. That does not fit in with my understanding of Christ. Why condemn the poor man in mainland China or in the middle of Africa who never heard of him? Justice and Mercy in balance. I think He will look at what we did with what we know, and judge accordingly.

I made the comment since I am neither an agnostic nor an atheist and therefore, according to your post, eligible to do so. I don’t mean to sound antagonistic or hateful, just one man’s opinion.

]]> by: Maximum Bob http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14038 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:01:29 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14038 Yes, we deliberately antagonize Christians by pointing out those whose behavior is exemplary. Crafty, no? Yes, we deliberately antagonize Christians by pointing out those whose behavior is exemplary.

Crafty, no?

]]> by: RRRRyan http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14035 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:29:44 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/02/14/analysis-cheney-gores-non-quail-in-bush/#comment-14035 Jimmy is a common favorite among liberals today, him and Barbara Streisand. I guess he's an American Gandhi. I heard rumor that his son is going for office. Anyone know anything about that? What's all of this "I know who Jesus likes" stuff coming from admitted non-believers? Why is it so fun for self proclaimed agnostics and atheists to jump on the "I know Jesus better than you" boat? ... Never mind, I think I just realized it really boils down to the joy of antagonizing Christians. It is quite ironic that so many claim expert insight on topics that they reject. If you knew Jesus so well you'd know that without accepting Him you will go to hell. What a passive, gentle, diplomatic, and merciful solution for a disagreement. Let me guess, hell is too mean for Jesus to subject anyone to, so it must not exist. The biblical references are all results of human error as is every other reference I don't like. Jimmy is a common favorite among liberals today, him and Barbara Streisand. I guess he’s an American Gandhi.

I heard rumor that his son is going for office. Anyone know anything about that?

What’s all of this “I know who Jesus likes” stuff coming from admitted non-believers? Why is it so fun for self proclaimed agnostics and atheists to jump on the “I know Jesus better than you” boat? … Never mind, I think I just realized it really boils down to the joy of antagonizing Christians. It is quite ironic that so many claim expert insight on topics that they reject. If you knew Jesus so well you’d know that without accepting Him you will go to hell. What a passive, gentle, diplomatic, and merciful solution for a disagreement.

Let me guess, hell is too mean for Jesus to subject anyone to, so it must not exist. The biblical references are all results of human error as is every other reference I don’t like.

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