Comments on: Ground Rules http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/ America's favorite blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:57:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Murray http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12750 Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:49:36 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12750 What an in-cow-poop. What an in-cow-poop.

]]> by: cooper http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12745 Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:32:38 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12745 Dumbya's old man had a turn at the helm awhile back. (BTW, he had his own brand of fingernail-across-the-blackboard English.) He stepped in the same moist, shoe sucking pile your Mr. Howard did by pledging "Read my lips...No new taxes". He then went on to raise taxes and, of course, to lose the next election. Dumbya, in a pique of juvenile rebelion, has sworn to do everything exactly different from old dad - well, except invade Iraq - ergo, all this slashing of social services and tax cuts for the wealthy. What a maroon! Dumbya’s old man had a turn at the helm awhile back. (BTW, he had his own brand of fingernail-across-the-blackboard English.) He stepped in the same moist, shoe sucking pile your Mr. Howard did by pledging “Read my lips…No new taxes”. He then went on to raise taxes and, of course, to lose the next election.

Dumbya, in a pique of juvenile rebelion, has sworn to do everything exactly different from old dad - well, except invade Iraq - ergo, all this slashing of social services and tax cuts for the wealthy. What a maroon!

]]> by: Pete IVDL http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12718 Sat, 14 Jan 2006 04:49:24 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12718 Come on, nato - if we held every pollatician to their previous statements, it would be like a Giant Ball Of String Of Lies. Sheesh, twits like Bush don't even know what they're saying half the time. Even if they wrote it themselves (which Bush didn't, 'cause it would be written in crayon). We had an instance of selective forgetting a few months ago here in Oz. The Prime Minister (little Johnny H) introduced the GST with a taxapalooza of taxpayers' money, prime TV advertising, the works. Then one of our independent channels interviewed him, and showed actual real live untouched video footage of him a few years ago vowing and declaring that he "would not, now, or ever, consider introducing any type of goods and services taxes in Australia, ever". When he was presented with this polar opposite of his current position, he claimed the statement was "taken out of context". Then the interviewer mentioned that the footage was taken during his (little Johnny's) last election campaign. I laughed myself sick. But of course it meant nothing in the long run. So now I just assume that all pollaticians speak entirely "out of context". Pity it isn't a good defense for the rest of us, who must live in the damn contexts... Come on, nato - if we held every pollatician to their previous statements, it would be like a Giant Ball Of String Of Lies. Sheesh, twits like Bush don’t even know what they’re saying half the time. Even if they wrote it themselves (which Bush didn’t, ’cause it would be written in crayon).

We had an instance of selective forgetting a few months ago here in Oz. The Prime Minister (little Johnny H) introduced the GST with a taxapalooza of taxpayers’ money, prime TV advertising, the works. Then one of our independent channels interviewed him, and showed actual real live untouched video footage of him a few years ago vowing and declaring that he “would not, now, or ever, consider introducing any type of goods and services taxes in Australia, ever”. When he was presented with this polar opposite of his current position, he claimed the statement was “taken out of context”. Then the interviewer mentioned that the footage was taken during his (little Johnny’s) last election campaign. I laughed myself sick. But of course it meant nothing in the long run.

So now I just assume that all pollaticians speak entirely “out of context”. Pity it isn’t a good defense for the rest of us, who must live in the damn contexts…

]]> by: David http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12686 Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:44:11 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12686 nato, I like it. nato,

I like it.

]]> by: nato http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12674 Fri, 13 Jan 2006 01:20:44 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12674 I don't understand what all the hoo-ha is about. According to dubya's press conference on December 19, 2005 (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/12/20051219-2.html), "democracies don't war; democracies are peaceful countries." Given that we are a democracy, I assume that means we are not at war, and therefore there is no enemy for us to be giving comfort to when we attempt open and honest debate. I don’t understand what all the hoo-ha is about. According to dubya’s press conference on December 19, 2005 (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/12/20051219-2.html), “democracies don’t war; democracies are peaceful countries.” Given that we are a democracy, I assume that means we are not at war, and therefore there is no enemy for us to be giving comfort to when we attempt open and honest debate.

]]> by: siobhan http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12656 Thu, 12 Jan 2006 20:23:33 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12656 Thanks for opening my eyestalks to the origins of this story. (And to the origins of all of us, at that.) Harold, I started reading FA midyear, so had been able to witness the glory of the purple pirate in real time. The problem is, once you've seen something, you can't un-see it. Thanks for opening my eyestalks to the origins of this story. (And to the origins of all of us, at that.)

Harold, I started reading FA midyear, so had been able to witness the glory of the purple pirate in real time. The problem is, once you’ve seen something, you can’t un-see it.

]]> by: dee http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12654 Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:21:29 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12654 Sharon -- At the risk of getting Adam all riled up about what a wonderful job the media is doing, I think you're absolutely right. It's not only the line between news and entertainment that's been blurred;as long as news is a "cost center" in a larger conglomerate (Disney, Viacom, GE) we cannot depend on the media to report the information we need to make the decisions. The relationship between this administration and the media is just too damned cozy for words. Which is why you hear very little coverage of any demonstrations or protests against this war. It's not that they're not taking place, but as long as the adminstration can use the media to create the impression that it's just a radical minority doing the protesting, they can promote the fiction that they have the support of the majority of the American people. Sharon — At the risk of getting Adam all riled up about what a wonderful job the media is doing, I think you’re absolutely right. It’s not only the line between news and entertainment that’s been blurred;as long as news is a “cost center” in a larger conglomerate (Disney, Viacom, GE) we cannot depend on the media to report the information we need to make the decisions. The relationship between this administration and the media is just too damned cozy for words.

Which is why you hear very little coverage of any demonstrations or protests against this war. It’s not that they’re not taking place, but as long as the adminstration can use the media to create the impression that it’s just a radical minority doing the protesting, they can promote the fiction that they have the support of the majority of the American people.

]]> by: ice weasel http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12646 Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:24:35 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12646 Murray, judging that particular contest would be the best part. Hmmmm, prizes... Hey Pete, I'm only the artist. I blame everything on Murray. And frankly, you're objectively pro-saddam if you criticize the new site. Sharon, sadly, you are, in my estimation, exactly right. As someone once said, "They did it to themselves." Which sort of brings me back to the topic I was addressing in the beginning of this post. sigh... Murray, judging that particular contest would be the best part.

Hmmmm, prizes…

Hey Pete, I’m only the artist. I blame everything on Murray.

And frankly, you’re objectively pro-saddam if you criticize the new site.

Sharon, sadly, you are, in my estimation, exactly right. As someone once said, “They did it to themselves.”

Which sort of brings me back to the topic I was addressing in the beginning of this post.

sigh…

]]> by: Pete IVDL http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12645 Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:19:54 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12645 Siobhan, the lobster crawled out from under His Jewel-Encrusted Rock during previous discussion(s) on Intelligent design. Check out (in order, if you like) <a href="http://www.felbers.net/fa/2005/01/18/intelligence-for-dummies/" rel="nofollow">Intelligent Design</a>, <a href="http://www.felbers.net/fa/2005/05/02/the-wreck-of-the-hms-beagle/" rel="nofollow">The Wreck of the HMS Beagle</a>, and <a href="http://www.felbers.net/fa/2005/08/03/the-return-of-the-lobster/" rel="nofollow">The Return Of the Lobster</a>. These are long posts, but if these don't explain the crustacean references, nothing will. These are without a doubt some of Adam's not least infamous posts... Dee, do you have any other references for Siobhan and others? Siobhan, the lobster crawled out from under His Jewel-Encrusted Rock during previous discussion(s) on Intelligent design.

Check out (in order, if you like) Intelligent Design, The Wreck of the HMS Beagle, and The Return Of the Lobster. These are long posts, but if these don’t explain the crustacean references, nothing will.

These are without a doubt some of Adam’s not least infamous posts…

Dee, do you have any other references for Siobhan and others?

]]> by: Pete IVDL http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12644 Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:10:48 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2006/01/10/ground-rules/#comment-12644 Ice, good site/subsite, great ideas and graphics, but man, who approved the advertising? :) Ice, good site/subsite, great ideas and graphics, but man, who approved the advertising? :)

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