From Reuters:
WASHINGTON - President George W. Bush called on Tuesday for a responsible election-year debate on Iraq and said Americans should demand a discussion “that brings credit to our democracy, not comfort to our adversaries.”
…Bush made clear he was girding for battle with Democrats in the run-up to the mid-term congressional election in November, when he will try to keep the U.S. Congress in the hands of his Republican Party.
“There is a difference between responsible and irresponsible debate and it’s even more important to conduct this debate responsibly when American troops are risking their lives overseas,” Bush told the veterans organization.
Americans know the difference between honest critics who question the way the war is being prosecuted, “and partisan critics who claim that we acted in Iraq because of oil, or because of Israel, or because we misled the American people,” said Bush.
Bush was not specific but was clearly talking about Democrats who have questioned his motives in attacking Iraq and who have been demanding a timetable for a withdrawal of U.S. forces in Iraq.
Dear Democrats;
The upcoming elections are important, sure. But you can campaign all you want and still be a loyal, patriotic, honest American. Here’s how!
You want to be an “honest critic,” don’t you? You don’t want to comfort or aid our enemies, do you? And you don’t want the upcoming elections to be all about partisan politics, do you? Americans don’t want the war we’re currently fighting to be politicized by politicians who are running for office so that they can have influence over events like… well, like the war. Do they? No.
Anyway, it’s important to have groundrules. So let’s look at the rules that the President laid out. Learn ‘em. Live ‘em. Try not to be unpatriotic. Because it’s okay to say things about the war. But only certain things. Other things are irresponsible. Got it? Good.
1) No questioning the motives. Was oil a factor? Was Israel a factor? Was revenge a factor? Was a longstanding and well-documented neocon commitment to “transforming the region” by going to war with Iraq a factor, and did those documented essays make frequent references to Israel and oil?. These are the questions that give aid and comfort to our enemies. Our motives were the motives that we said were our motives when we went to war: WMD’s, Terror, Freedom.
2) No questioning the honesty. Okay, so we were wrong about the WMD’s thing. And the Terror thing. But it was an honest mistake. Or, at least it was the result of hundreds and hundreds of honest mistakes. But calling the honesty of our leaders into question gives aid and comfort to the enemy. Might as well send ‘em blankets! [Just kidding. Don’t send the enemy blankets, please]
3. No questioning the mission. As the President said today, “When our soldiers hear politicians in Washington question the mission they are risking their lives to accomplish, it hurts their morale.” What? You want to say that you think our soldiers’ presence in Iraq might be making the situation worse in some cases? Saying that is what makes it worse, even if you think it’s “true.”
So some of you might be thinking: What does that leave you with? What can a challenger in the upcoming elections say that would be patriotic and productive? Plenty!
a) Demand a timetable for withdrawal. Not enough Democrats are doing this. It’s a stupid idea, yes, becuase it tips our hand and anyway any timetable would be contingent about what our approach to victory actually is (but don’t talk about that (see #3, above)). But Democrats should feel free to demand a timetable.
b) “Question the way the war is being prosecuted.” Just like the President said. The President is relying on the best advice from the military commanders on the ground (except for the ones who have been fired or are just plain wrong). Democrats should feel free to sit on their asses back home and recommend alternate strategies, as long as they don’t question the essential mission or the motives of those behind it or the need to stay and win. So you can say things like “The President took us into Iraq with honest motivations based on the best intelligence available and for a just cause, but maybe the 506th Regimental Combat Team ought to focus more of its efforts in the eastern portion of the Karradah district.” That would look good on a campaign button, wouldn’t it?
c) Hold a bake sale for our soldiers. None of the above restrictions prevent you from holding a bake sale, or even sending actual cookies to our fighting men and women in Iraq. It’ll show the electorate that you care, and that you respect our Commander in Chief and our Congress and our way of life. That always makes voters happy. Think about it!
So, there are the groundrules. Feel free to be creative. Have fun! And good luck in the ‘06 elections!
Best,
Brian Jeurgens
Deputy Assistant Advisor
White House Office of Political Affairs





47 comments
Aaron Headly
January 10, 2006 at 5:33 pm
1And, as ever, ignore the man behind the curtain.
waterfowler
January 10, 2006 at 5:41 pm
2C’mon Adam. Nothing about the Longhorns or “Alioto” (ask Teddy)?
And not even a dig about the roach killer? East Tree Stump is down but not out.
Mary
January 10, 2006 at 5:44 pm
3Okaeeeeeeeee. Don’t say W mislead us, say we misfollowed. Don’t question the mission or our troops, who bolg against the war, will be demoralized. Question the way the war is being prosecuted not the mission or motives. So, are those felony or misdemeanor charges?
Ann
January 10, 2006 at 6:35 pm
4Won’t it be fun someday, when a Democrat is president again, to look back at all these “rules for debate” and just laugh? OK, maybe not. But all this BS is going to come back and bite the Republicans’ butts when the shoe is on the other foot. To mix metaphors.
cooper
January 10, 2006 at 10:41 pm
5Yeah, like Bush is going to debate anyone about anything.
Remember the mysterious box protruding under Bush’s coat during the first Debate with Kerry? That was always pooh-poohed and lied about by Bush’s handlers. (Where are the stalwart and yapping media when you really need them? Bush sure got a pass on that one.) Well unconfirmed rumors have it that Cheney had the remote and was shocking the Bejesus out of Dumbya everytime he started to veer off into “The Land of the Pies”. I could have sworn I saw a thin whisp of smoke rising from the box there towards the end.
cooper
January 10, 2006 at 10:55 pm
6Hey, fouler. You going to join us at Felberpalooza? Come on, it’ll be fun! You bring a couple of six packs of Lone Star and I’ll bring the Carolina Blonde. I know we can be intellectually challenging at times, but when you get right down to it, we’re just harmless Liberals. Besides you know we won’t be packing heat. Wouldn’t be prudent! Give it some thought.
your pal, cooper
cooper
January 11, 2006 at 12:05 am
7BTW, you may view Adam’s Book cover on Amazon’s website - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0812974425/qid=1136912066/sr=8-1/ref= pd_bbs_1/103-4205258-9767052?n=507846&s=books&v=glance
Of course, that’s all you can do until August 15th, but at least we have that. Cat juggling, huh? I thought only Steve Martin did that. You comedians are a strange lot.
Heads up, Adam. Word has it that tomorrow’s the day of reckoning. Star Trekkies, try to get a good night’s sleep, if you can.
David
January 11, 2006 at 1:39 am
8Dear Mr. Jenkins:
Are the poor lad’s feelings hurt because instead of worshipful praise to our Son King, serious voices from across the political spectrum are being raised in revolt against this idiot’s crusade in Iraq? And has His Most Holy Inerrancy become so delusion as to believe he can actually decree what people can and cannot say, and how they will be permitted to say whatever He decides it is permissible to say? Please urge President Pompous Prevaricator to blather on. The entertainment value is priceless.
David
January 11, 2006 at 3:40 am
9Hope Mr. Jeurgens finds my misspelling of his name amusing. My eyes were out of focus…
ice weasel
January 11, 2006 at 9:58 am
10For those of you who would like to know the very latest about Felberpalooza (or whatever it is) can now submit your email to:
felberpalooza@convergencetime.com
Your email address will never be sold, rented or given to anyone else. The only mail you will receive will be periodic updates relating directly to Felberpalooza.
I know the above sounds like some kind of disclaimer. It is, but simply put, this email address is only for Felberpalooza and you can send your email to it (to get information) without fear of any abuse.
Pete IVDL
January 11, 2006 at 10:07 am
11Fuck W’s definition of a democracy, let’s start an irresponsible debate! Yeah! Let’s talk about oil and Halliburton, WMDs and “forty-five minutes”, Nigerian yellowcake, puppet administrators, Abu Ghraib, enemy combatants and the Geneva Convention. Let’s “debate” W’s mental competence. In short, let’s debate everything from 9/11 onwards. Heck, let’s debate 9/11 itself.
Oh. We have done. Jeez, I wasn’t listening.
Pete IVDL
January 11, 2006 at 10:09 am
12Ice, as soon as I finish on the laptop, and get some sleep, I’ll sign in on my desktop. Woo-hoo! It’s happening, folks!
Mary
January 11, 2006 at 10:17 am
13I’m with you Pete. The “rules” were bad enough, and then W called for “punishing” those who don’t do as he says. Since when was pointing out that the emperor had no clothes “defeatist”? Here’s hoping the Republicans get spanked big time in this year’s elections.
Codename repooc
January 11, 2006 at 10:29 am
14Pete, our Commander in Chief asked us not to go there. I would think you would honor the office, if not the man. You must remember that you are on the outside, e-mailing in. Hook words like “oil”, “Halliburton”, “WMD’s”, “yellowcake” and “Abu Graib” get your address flagged and watched. Be careful, my friend, be very careful. We’re in a brave new world after 911.
David
January 11, 2006 at 12:28 pm
15There’s a new piece of mistletoe on my shirt tail with only one name affixed thereto at the moment.
Hope they try to rendite one of my liberal redneck buddies (they do exist, and they don’t take any shit off of anybody - try to imagine renditers with pit bulls who have no fear of 250# razorbacks attached to various parts of their persons).
OK, now back to more staid contemplations.
ice weasel
January 11, 2006 at 1:21 pm
16Atrios summed up my feelings quite well this morning,
“It Doesn’t Really Matter
Watching the bobblehead coverage of the Alito hearings - and, frankly, just about everything else they cover - one comes away think that to them it just doesn’t really matter. Court decisions don’t matter. Policy doesn’t matter. None of this stuff matters. It’s just a game played between rival high school football teams and they’re just happy to go to the homecoming dance.
It’s frustrating.”
It’s the complete and total abdication of reporting facts in favor or maintaining ones’ press privileges and access. It’s ridiculous. A waste of time and resources. Why not just run commericals 24/7?
By the way, the Felberpalooza is finished. Once Murray and Adam give it the thumbs up, I’ll post a link here.
There is also a very simple email sign page on the site.
Woo-Hoo!
See you in September!
signed,
the guy still not worried about dieting for the event-sorta
ginny
January 11, 2006 at 2:28 pm
17Wait, wait, I bolgged against the war - I must hate my freedom! That makes me secretly French! (nod of the head at Patriot Boy’s “inner Frenchman” conceit)
Sometimes, mes amis, I feel we are voices laughing in the wilderness.
And yes, Atrios is right - it doesn’t really matter. Besides the bobblehead coverage, the “hot button” issues will just get revisited endlessly until “they” get the result they want, stare decisis or not. Listening to Alito’s stonewalling this morning on my way in was an exercise in screaming at the radio, and not in a good way.
Fortunately, the windows were rolled up.
Rusty
January 11, 2006 at 3:27 pm
18So I can’t make fun of their cartoon bio-weapons trucks as I have for the last four years? Does this mean that the Plame investigation (which took far to long to initiate) and its outcomes are out-of-bounds? Torture? Rendition? Internal surveillence? Fiddling while New Orleans drowned? No way; my derision has precedent to his pronouncement. Prior precedent wins.
I am going to petition that colleges change the name of their political science departments. Science is the only institution about which one can have any trust. Hwang Woo-suk lied about his cloning findings. He was called out and fired. Whatever politics might be, it certainly is not a science. In this administration, the pursuit of truth and knowledge has been thrown into the tub, rendered with lye, and washed down the drain.
Of course, I am sure Americans of all times have felt this way about their government. Bush is keeping an eye on us? It has to be the other way around. Our eternal duty is to keep an eye on them if we want our government to remain of the people and for the people. Democracy is not for the lazy.
What his pronouncement does do is re-energize me for the mid-terms. Last November our township elected Dems, for the first time ever, to local office. All politics begins at the local level. I, for one, am going to get active to throw the bums out.
waterfowler
January 11, 2006 at 5:05 pm
19I knew y’all’d (that’s “y’all would” in proper redneck)git back yer fire. No more praisin’ Jesus and dancin’ in the aisles. Anything and everything is Bush’s fault. I was worried there for a nano-sec. Cooper, thanks for the invite, but Ice says palooza is in Sept. Dove season starts, early teal, and maybe squirrel and rabbit. Y’all have fun and I’ll stay safe.
cooper
January 11, 2006 at 6:12 pm
20Okay, fouler, but I’ll have to drink all that Carolina Blonde myself now. I was hoping I could be the Official Translator of Felberpalooza, since I’m a boy of the south and me own dear sweet Mutter was from Boston. I can understand most native folks in America, but now the boys from Alabama - I’ve still got to watch their lips when they talk.
Give them young’uns a big hug tonight and tell them they live in a great country - liberals and all.
ice weasel
January 11, 2006 at 6:40 pm
21“Anything and everything is Bush’s fault.”
Not to pick on our hunting friend (as easy as it is) but I hear things like this a lot from self-described conservatives. I find interesting. Apparently, according to these folks, bush is responsible only when it’s a good thing. If something bad happens, it’s someone else’s fault. Amazing how that works.
As for this war, it’s all about boy george. He’s pumped this thing up and now he has to live with it, forever. I know “presidentin’s hard”, we’ve all heard the chimperor intone that line often enough. I suppose it’s especially hard when part of the country will blame you for “everything”. Even the stuff you’re responsible for.
day-um.
Maximum Bob
January 11, 2006 at 7:02 pm
22“Anything and everything is Bush’s fault.”
Not everything. Just the stuff he shouldn’t have done but did anyway, and the stuff he should have done but didn’t. Admittedly, given his record, it’s mighty easy to confuse that with “everything.”
Stephen
January 11, 2006 at 8:03 pm
23I’m surprised how strongly people feel they must support Bush. “Anything and everything” is not his fault but surely he has done something wrong in the past 5 years. Not that I can hear anything as I listen to TalkRight on my Sirius. It seems everyone is so busy trying to protect him that they don’t want to look at him to closely. Just because he can’t think of anything he would do differently doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be looking. I’m conservative but that doesn’t make Bush perfect.
ice weasel
January 11, 2006 at 8:25 pm
24Well said Stephen.
As I’ve said about the Abramoff scandal, if there are dems involved, let them fall. They should be punished. But because some in the party I identify with might be “hurt” doesn’t mean I’m going to defend them when they’re wrong.
That just seems so, well, dumb.
waterfowler
January 11, 2006 at 9:04 pm
25Max, It sounds like you should be Pres. Run and win, then you could do what you should and don’t do what you shouldn’t. You’re obviously the all-knowing.
Ice, Hate to say it, but I agree w/ you again. I don’t care what party or creed or color or orientation (I don’t discriminate?), but if any lawmakers are found guilty of crimes, “hang ‘em high”!.
waterfowler
January 11, 2006 at 9:07 pm
26BTW, roach killer hasn’t even been “found guilty” of killing roaches, yet.
Maximum Bob
January 11, 2006 at 9:16 pm
27WF, I don’t claim to know everything; I just know more than our president. It’s a rare quality that I share with almost half of the people in this country. Nevertheless, I appreciate your support.
ice weasel
January 11, 2006 at 9:44 pm
28Hey Felberpalooza fans…
http://www.convergencetime.com/felberpalooza/
Please let know if anything needs tweaking, fixing, or if it’s just too ugly for words.
SeattleDan
January 11, 2006 at 10:14 pm
29It looks great, ice weasel!
Ann
January 11, 2006 at 10:31 pm
30Waterfowler, I don’t get your sarcastic “You’re obviously the all-knowing.” That’s not really a reasoned response! Let’s try to avoid the ad hominem (or feminem!) attacks within this forum.
Characterizing our objections as “Anything and everything is Bush’s fault” is a classic example of the “straw man” argument.
No one is blaming Bush for everything, just for the things for which he should take responsibility. For example, he’s not responsible for Hurricane Katrina’s happening, and no one has ever reasonably said otherwise. But as soon as someone complained about his response—and the response of “Brownie”—others insisted that we were blaming Bush for the weather!
This kind of defense of any position—by completely mischaracterizing the opposition—is weak and disingenuous.
I’ll admit that our frustration does lead us to say outrageous things from time to time, but that’s mostly because we love satire–remember, Adam’s blog really is satirical first, and political second. Or second-ish. I don’t want to speak for Adam here.
But the point of Adam’s post, and most of our follow-ups, is that Bush is trying to poison the debate by saying that certain positions or arguments are per se dishonest or partisan. And those arguments are specifically ones that cast doubt on his credibility. So he’s basically saying that anyone who questions his motives is irresponsible. You just can’t go into a debate that way!
Unfortunately, this is a common response to accusations of wrongdoing. Instead of addressing the issue, the accused party draws himself up and huffs, “How DARE you accuse me of doing that!” Which isn’t really a refutation.
And despite the overwhelming evidence that the founders of our nation (who were not the Puritans or the Pilgrims or any other religious group, BTW)— I mean specifically the framers of our Constitution—viewed dissent and debate as vital to a democracy even and especially in difficult times, we continue to hear that any questioning of Our Leader is treasonous, or at lest Undermines the Morale of Our Troops. When did our soldiers become sacred cows?
This post is longer than usual for me, and obviously devoid of humor. But I don’t want to get into name-calling with you, WF, and I’m disappointed when you don’t present reasoned arguments. I know you can.
ice weasel
January 11, 2006 at 11:14 pm
31“When did our soldiers become sacred cows?”
Ann, I’ll be reporting you, via the TIPS hotline, to Homeland Security.
Sharon
January 12, 2006 at 12:08 am
32“Democracy is not for the lazy.”
Ain’t it the truth. And yet. A large portion of the electorate–that is, the part of it that bothers to vote at all–gets all of their information from the most passive medium invented by humankind, television. The same glass teat that feeds them their entertainment also feeds them their news, except they can’t tell the difference because the news departments were subsumed into the entertainment departments a long time ago. In my lowest moments, I fear that we have gotten exactly the government we deserve.
Murray
January 12, 2006 at 12:42 am
33Ooh, bad place to jump in, but here it goes anyways, sorry for the double post, I want to be sure that everyone gets to see this.
In an attempt to tap the unfathomable depths of creativity, wit, and intellect of the FA readers and commenters, we need to come up with several FA type events.
The 72 Hours of Elvis events will be posted at http://www.convergencetime.com/felberpalooza/ soon so that everyone knows what is happening, but we need some other diversions to get this sucker into high gear.
One idea is a Sweet Potato(e) pudding contest. Cooper assumes supremacy but there might be challengers to that claim. Bring your best and see what discerning liberal gourmets proclaim the most outstanding. I’m more a chocolate freak and I will be supplying a Chocolate moose (that can’t be spelled right) cake that weighs a bit more than Uranium, and threatens one’s very existence by being so utterly fulfilling and sensory overloading that one wonders if there is anything left on earth to experience, and having partaken of the very best, how can one slide back down and live in his previous state. (Oh, I don’t make it, I just supply it. It’s from the Elkridge Furnace Inn.)
Star trek costumes? Purple pirate get ups? Lobster disguises?
What are our themes? What do friendly liberals with a love of satire do in the wild? (well,,, yea, of course, but,,, well,, that’s kind of their own business), I mean besides that?
We NEED your input.
Siobhan
January 12, 2006 at 1:18 am
34“Star trek costumes? Purple pirate get ups? Lobster disguises?”
So, as a newer reader (via WWDTM) I get the proper usage of “lobster” via context, but… can anyone clue me into the origin? Links to threads or whatever?
Thank you and Lob bless you.
ice weasel
January 12, 2006 at 1:39 am
35“What do friendly liberals with a love of satire do in the wild? (well,,, yea, of course, but,,, well,, that’s kind of their own business), I mean besides that?”
Murray, are you suggesting we can’t offer prizes for “that”?
Damn, I figured that was the only way I’d win anything. Now, no way.
Harold
January 12, 2006 at 8:20 am
36Siobhan, this may be the earliest mention of the great and benevolent Lobster, the just, the merciful:
http://www.felbers.net/fa/2005/01/18/intelligence-for-dummies/
http://www.felbers.net/fa/2005/05/02/the-wreck-of-the-hms-beagle/
Do you also get the Star Trek costume and Purple Pirate references? Adam’s sister Susie might be able to supply illustrations for both of those…
http://www.felbers.net/fa/2005/11/16/placeholders-and-pirates/
Murray
January 12, 2006 at 10:05 am
37Ice, I’m not sure what that prize would be, and I’m not sure how we would judge it, but if you want to take the ball and run with it, go ahead.
Pete IVDL
January 12, 2006 at 10:10 am
38Ice, good site/subsite, great ideas and graphics, but man, who approved the advertising?
Pete IVDL
January 12, 2006 at 10:19 am
39Siobhan, the lobster crawled out from under His Jewel-Encrusted Rock during previous discussion(s) on Intelligent design.
Check out (in order, if you like) Intelligent Design, The Wreck of the HMS Beagle, and The Return Of the Lobster. These are long posts, but if these don’t explain the crustacean references, nothing will.
These are without a doubt some of Adam’s not least infamous posts…
Dee, do you have any other references for Siobhan and others?
ice weasel
January 12, 2006 at 11:24 am
40Murray, judging that particular contest would be the best part.
Hmmmm, prizes…
Hey Pete, I’m only the artist. I blame everything on Murray.
And frankly, you’re objectively pro-saddam if you criticize the new site.
Sharon, sadly, you are, in my estimation, exactly right. As someone once said, “They did it to themselves.”
Which sort of brings me back to the topic I was addressing in the beginning of this post.
sigh…
dee
January 12, 2006 at 3:21 pm
41Sharon — At the risk of getting Adam all riled up about what a wonderful job the media is doing, I think you’re absolutely right. It’s not only the line between news and entertainment that’s been blurred;as long as news is a “cost center” in a larger conglomerate (Disney, Viacom, GE) we cannot depend on the media to report the information we need to make the decisions. The relationship between this administration and the media is just too damned cozy for words.
Which is why you hear very little coverage of any demonstrations or protests against this war. It’s not that they’re not taking place, but as long as the adminstration can use the media to create the impression that it’s just a radical minority doing the protesting, they can promote the fiction that they have the support of the majority of the American people.
siobhan
January 12, 2006 at 4:23 pm
42Thanks for opening my eyestalks to the origins of this story. (And to the origins of all of us, at that.)
Harold, I started reading FA midyear, so had been able to witness the glory of the purple pirate in real time. The problem is, once you’ve seen something, you can’t un-see it.
nato
January 12, 2006 at 9:20 pm
43I don’t understand what all the hoo-ha is about. According to dubya’s press conference on December 19, 2005 (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/12/20051219-2.html), “democracies don’t war; democracies are peaceful countries.” Given that we are a democracy, I assume that means we are not at war, and therefore there is no enemy for us to be giving comfort to when we attempt open and honest debate.
David
January 13, 2006 at 1:44 am
44nato,
I like it.
Pete IVDL
January 14, 2006 at 12:49 am
45Come on, nato - if we held every pollatician to their previous statements, it would be like a Giant Ball Of String Of Lies. Sheesh, twits like Bush don’t even know what they’re saying half the time. Even if they wrote it themselves (which Bush didn’t, ’cause it would be written in crayon).
We had an instance of selective forgetting a few months ago here in Oz. The Prime Minister (little Johnny H) introduced the GST with a taxapalooza of taxpayers’ money, prime TV advertising, the works. Then one of our independent channels interviewed him, and showed actual real live untouched video footage of him a few years ago vowing and declaring that he “would not, now, or ever, consider introducing any type of goods and services taxes in Australia, ever”. When he was presented with this polar opposite of his current position, he claimed the statement was “taken out of context”. Then the interviewer mentioned that the footage was taken during his (little Johnny’s) last election campaign. I laughed myself sick. But of course it meant nothing in the long run.
So now I just assume that all pollaticians speak entirely “out of context”. Pity it isn’t a good defense for the rest of us, who must live in the damn contexts…
cooper
January 14, 2006 at 8:32 pm
46Dumbya’s old man had a turn at the helm awhile back. (BTW, he had his own brand of fingernail-across-the-blackboard English.) He stepped in the same moist, shoe sucking pile your Mr. Howard did by pledging “Read my lips…No new taxes”. He then went on to raise taxes and, of course, to lose the next election.
Dumbya, in a pique of juvenile rebelion, has sworn to do everything exactly different from old dad - well, except invade Iraq - ergo, all this slashing of social services and tax cuts for the wealthy. What a maroon!
Murray
January 15, 2006 at 12:49 am
47What an in-cow-poop.