From CNN:
WASHINGTON (AP) — The CIA’s interrogation methods are “unique” but don’t involve torture, agency chief Porter Goss says, although he won’t specify just what techniques are used to extract information from prisoners…
“This agency does not do torture. Torture does not work,” Goss said. “We use lawful capabilities to collect vital information and we do it in a variety of unique and innovative ways, all of which are legal and none of which are torture.”
“An enemy that’s working in an amorphous network that doesn’t have to worry about a bunch of regulations, chain of command, rule of law or anything else has got a huge advantage over a stultified, slow-moving bureaucratic, by-the-book” organization, Goss argued. “So we have to, within the law and within all the requirements of our professional ethics in this profession, develop agility.”
From the “CIA Agents Field Guide: Addendum 1275b - 2005″
Being out on your own during an interrogation can be scary. Who is this guy? Is he a terrorist? Is he planning an imminent attack? Is he really just the simple goatherd he claims to be? What language is he speaking? Why won’t he stop bleeding?
Those are some tough questions, and there are no easy answers. Not from us, at least. Remember, you need to use your own inspiration to get to the bottom of an overseas interrogation, and though we’d like to help, we’re really not allowed to know exactly what you’re doing, just in case it’s sort of in that “grey area.”
So here are some fun ideas that other agents may or may not have tried in recent months. Remember, these are just a “jumping-off point.” Be creative! Have fun! And above all, remember to pay attention to international guidelines and don’t do anything that you are specifically forbidden to do. Specifically, get it? Okay?
Stress Positions: The Swami
There’s a thin line between discomfort and actual “pain.” Some people are more flexible than others, but you don’t have to officially “know” that. So why not try a compulsory one-on-one “yoga class?” While questioning your “interrogation partner,” show him pictures of certain yoga/gymnastics/circus freak positions that you’re going to “help him” get into. You might find that once you’ve gotten your budding contortionist into these poses, he suddenly remembers things a whole lot better - it’s amazing how scratching your head with the soles of both feet can stimulate the brain!
A Familiar Ring
You can’t really threaten the lives of your guests’ families, but there’s no rule against showing them familiar-looking body parts. Be creative, and accessorize the limbs, fingers, and noses with traditional clothing and jewelry from your subject’s home country - you might just get lucky! Remember to let their imagination do the work for you - “Hey, look what I found outside! I sure hope the owner of this gets to keep her other thumb!” [Many of our branches maintain stockpiles of amputated parts, so it doesn’t have to cost you an arm and a leg. Lol!]
Just Friends
Everybody loves the now-defunct hit sitcom “Friends,” right? But even veteran fans know that viewing more than an episode or two in a sitting can be somewhat disturbing. It can become repetitive, cloying, and eventually downright creepy. So why not host an all-night, all-day, all-week “Friends” party? We particularly recommend episodes wherein Phoebe gets some crazy idea in her head or Chandler finds himself really frustrated but in a kind of impotent way. By the 50th episode, your “adopted pals” may be singing like canaries. [An agent at a black prison in Poland (which doesn’t exist!) reports that dressing your prisoners up as popular “Friends” characters can really enhance the experience!]
The Jihad Joke Shop
It’s amazing how the continual substitution of “gag gifts” for beloved objects can soften up a prisoner. It’s all fun and games, of course, but what if it just doesn’t stop? Eventually your “honored guest” will fear that every can of chickpeas might contain amusing springy snakes, that every prayer mat might deliver a mild and hilarious shock, and that every turban might come back from the laundry a little… “itchy.” Feel free to browse our online Joke Shop, and make sure you pick up at least one or two “Whoopee Korans.”
The Long Cocktail Party
This one’s really innovative! Put your “residents” in fancy eveningwear, bring ‘em to a reception hall with tasty finger-food and pleasant-but-unobtrusive music, and let the party begin! The key is to not let it end, not for days and days. You’ll find the party usually has a lot of small talk and awkward silences at first, but eventually the conversation really gets rolling. And if you don’t overhear what you need, you can bet that after a few days some of your party-goers will be pounding at the doors offering anything for a chance to make a polite exit.
Just Beat the Hell Out of ‘Em
Okay, you’re not allowed to do this. Definitely not, even though ideally you’d probably like to do this as a “side-dish” to all of the above. But you’re not allowed. By putting you far away from US soil and giving you limited contact with the outside world and concealing even the location of where you are and the identities of your prisoners, we realize that we’re just going to have to trust you not to beat the living shit out of your wards. Because we realize that you can probably get away with it and that you really hate those guys and that anything you get out of ‘em might just save thousands of Americans as well as your own families and that though they say that torture doesn’t work you never know and you’re not getting anywhere with legal techniques and why not give it a try? We know you may be thinking that and that you’re also thinking that this is what we really want you to do. But we’re just going to have to trust you to abide by all those international agreements and whatnot, because we really can’t stop you from “being a hero” and “saving the free world” and “doing what’s necessary even if it means breaking a couple of rules because those rules were written by bureaucratic pussies who’ve never been near a real war.” We’d love to come out there and supervise, but we’re… busy. So remember to “do” the “right” “thing.” Okay?
So, have fun. Let’s get out there and ask some questions! Wherever “there” is (lol!).





41 comments
Mary
November 21, 2005 at 5:03 pm
1I think I’ve been to some of those “receptions”. At least it *felt* lilke they never ended.
My husband and I are still arguing over the “legality” of playing Eminem 24-7. I’d be talking after the third cut.
David
November 21, 2005 at 6:33 pm
2Is there a link for ordering Whoopeee Korans online? Every god-fearing, heathen-hating, patriotic American should have one.
Motherweary
November 21, 2005 at 7:26 pm
3Back in the Paleolithic (1961) Billy Wilder directed a very funny movie called “One Two Three” about a Coca-Cola employee in West Berlin. The scene that sticks is one in which Evil East German Border Guards torture a young man by tying him to a chair in an empty room and playing, over and over and over, “Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weenie Yellow Polka-Dot Bikini.”
However, there are some old techniques so savage that even the current administration wouldn’t stoop to them …….. nah.
hedera
November 21, 2005 at 7:39 pm
4I never saw the Billy Wilder movie, but I fully agree that unlimited playing of “Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weenie Yellow Polka-Dot Bikini” is torture as defined in the Geneva Convention. I’m not sure playing it ONCE doesn’t qualify. It isn’t the only one like that - there’s an endless thing that has “El Paso” in it somewhere - but it’s definitely on the list.
hedera
November 21, 2005 at 7:43 pm
5Off topic, I’m not sure this qualifies as “tawchuh” (although the rehab exercises may), but tomorrow I’m going to have my second knee replaced and I’m not sure how long it’ll be before I can get back upstairs to use the computer. No, I don’t have wireless. So it’ll be a couple weeks before I can rejoin these conversations; I’ll miss you all. But I will be tuning in to WWDTM as soon as I’m home.
Steve
November 21, 2005 at 8:24 pm
6Or, you could do as the British are alleged to have done and have the “detainees” join the “drill team”.
A little involuntary trepanation, anyone?
My Lobster, what have we become?
Landis
November 21, 2005 at 8:35 pm
7Hedera, not getting a daily fix of Felbers and the Felbernauts may be considered torture by those with weak constitutions.
Good luck in the surgery.
ice weasel
November 21, 2005 at 8:38 pm
8Good luck and speedy recovery Hedera.
Bob
November 21, 2005 at 9:14 pm
9Best of luck on the surgery, hedera. I’m sure this Iraq unpleasantness will be ironed out by the time you get back, so you have that to look forward to.
tess
November 21, 2005 at 9:26 pm
10Hedera,
Ouch! Well, a few weeks of pain for a few years pain-free sounds good to me.
Let’s add any, if not all reality shows to the mix of marathons. I mean, sure, they’re going to love those old reruns playing over and over and over, but why not include some classic Big Brother where you get to watch people watch tv for 12 hours straight? Or the playful antics of the build crew of “Extreme Makeover: Home Edition” or the heartwarming stories behind Fox’s short-lived series, “The Swan”?
BTW, favorite quote from 1-2-3:
“This’ll be the biggest thing to hit Atlanta since Gen. Sherman threw that little barbeque!”
cooper
November 21, 2005 at 9:33 pm
11Adam, the Jihad Joke Shop is a great concept! I think we should get Mo working on the product line.
Motherweary, how about “It Was A One Eyed, One Horned, Flying Purple People Eater”? The fifties were certainly a vast cultural wasteland. Okay, let’s stop right now, Really! I’m mindlessly humming “Venus In Blue Jeans” and I don’t think I can stop! ARGH!
hedera, Jeez you weren’t kidding about the knees, were you? Sorry you’ve got to go through all that. I’ll be thinking of you and wishing you a fast recovery. Hey, since you’ll be listening to WWDTM, maybe Carl will do his disk jockey schtick and dedicate one to you - “…and next is that Number One hit for 1957 - Tab Hunter and “Young Love, First Love”. Or better yet, your favorite “Marty Robbins and “Down In The West Texas Town of El Paso”.
Somebody help me!!! Motherweary, what have you done???
nigel
November 21, 2005 at 10:26 pm
12“A Central Intelligence Agency that’s working in an amorphous network that doesn’t have to worry about a bunch of regulations, chain of command, rule of law or anything else has got a huge advantage over a stultified, slow-moving bureaucratic, by-the-book” terrorist organization, al-Zarqawi argued. “So we have to, within the [Islamic] law and within all the requirements of our professional ethics in this profession, develop agility.”
RichM
November 21, 2005 at 10:53 pm
13Don’t forget that it is good to keep one’s guests well hydrated. Doctors recommend that one have at least 3 liters of fluid a day, and it’s always a good idea to be a little generous so as to err on the side of caution, especially when one has been under stress or engaging in exertion.
nigel
November 21, 2005 at 11:01 pm
14I think the long cocktail party would be especially effective with Islamists. If they didn’t cooperate, you could induce momentary unconsciousness with the method of your choice, then BRING ON THE VIRGINS.
Oh God, I’m sorry. That’s so demeaning…
At least their heaven isn’t jamb-packed with fetuses.
David
November 21, 2005 at 11:40 pm
15hedera,
Just beware of Brits brandishing electric drills. Be glad when you’re back in the mix.
nigel
November 22, 2005 at 12:13 am
16Wow! Check out the skulls! Are these our kind of allies or is there some subtle Mongolian humor/voodoo here?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/11/21/notimeforcamels.ap/index.h tml
littlebit
November 22, 2005 at 12:13 am
17hedera,
When my partner went in for jaw surgery, the nurse asked him where he wanted to have the surgery, and he said, “Oh, just right here at the hospital.” It was kind of sweet, really, at such a moment. They handed me a red pen to mark the actual “where” on his actual skin.
Mark the spot, and take good care. See you back here at the ranch in short order.
nigel
November 22, 2005 at 12:21 am
18He drank fermented mare’s milk –
Our prez, making the ultimate sacrifice! Mebbe it’ll bring him to his senses!
Ulwan
November 22, 2005 at 1:33 am
19If you really want to know how to “enhance” your fun with terror suspects check out:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2005/11/19/cia-agents-reveal-enhanc_n_10 915.html.
But remember, this ISN”T torture!
Can’t seem to get the html tags to show in preview. sorry.
Pete IVDL
November 22, 2005 at 2:09 am
20Hedera, I’ve got all my movable extremities crossed for you. Hope it works, I’m also holding my breath till you get back amongst us.
I do hope your anaesthetist is a Democrat. (Sorry, your anaesthesiologist).
Anyway, you know the drill - pain is NOT your friend. Not anymore. (Kinda on-topic, too, huh?) So yell for the petho if you have to, lady!
We’ll be waitin’, anticipatin’…
Pete
Lysistrata
November 22, 2005 at 10:50 am
21As to the The Jihad Joke Shop I think there is a “Crusaders Joke Shop” of sorts.
http://www.divine-interventions.com/index2.php
Maybe we could pitch in and buy a nice gift for Mrs. Cheney!
Mary
November 22, 2005 at 11:35 am
22hedra-
Take good care. Use the meds when you feel pain and a quick recovery to you. Oh, and watch out for those physical terrorists, er, therapists. I just got done with some PT this morning. I feel for you my friend.
hedera
November 22, 2005 at 1:06 pm
23Thanks, everybody, for the good wishes, I really appreciate them! I know very well that pain is NOT my friend, and fortunately my surgery is in a hospital that believes in PCA, otherwise known as Patient Controlled Analgesics: that is, I’ll have a morphine pump. All I have to do is push a button, and it’s programmed not to overdose.
I may need it, too - now that cooper’s reminded me of the name of that awful Marty Robbins song (which I’d successfully forgotten), I get to go into the hospital with it running through my mind…. now THAT’S “tawchuh”! In revenge, cooper, how about Billy Jo Macallister and “Tallahatchee Bridge”??
The image of Pete with all his movable extremities crossed is a VERY odd one…
Harold
November 22, 2005 at 1:52 pm
24Nigel, one little theological point: “our” Heaven isn’t jam-packed with fetuses, either. At least according to Catholic dogma (or what I remember from grade school), the souls of unbaptized babies still have Original Sin on them and are not granted admission into Heaven, at least not yet. (They’re also not supposed to be buried in hallowed ground, either, though my stillborn brother was over 35 years ago.) The church invented “Limbo” as a holding place for those souls not consigned to Hell but not granted admission into Heavem, and they’ll be judged and assigned to Heaven or Hell on Judgement Day. So all those little aborted souls are jamming up Limbo. (By at least one neo-Christian analysis the aborted souls are actually in Hell; their definition of Hell is “privation from God”, so even “Limbo” can count as “Hell.”)
Rob Allen
November 22, 2005 at 3:58 pm
25A few things:
1. “El Paso” gets a lot better if you listen to the Grateful Dead’s version.
2. The people on Big Brother don’t watch TV. They’re completely without TV or radio. You may have been thinking of The Real World.
3. Try not to think about “The Night Chicago Died”.
Motherweary
November 22, 2005 at 4:48 pm
26From Ulwan’s link, above:
Just hearing about that makes me want to confess to anything, anything…
Hedera, it’ll be a cakewalk. Or at least a cakegimp. Good luck.
dee
November 22, 2005 at 5:09 pm
27From what I’ve seen of the promos, the programming our PBS station has planned for “WinterFest” (aka Our Timed Just Right for Year End Tax Deduction Begathon) would have me telling anyone anything they wanted to know. Hell I’d make stuff up just to avoid “Daniel O’Donnell: Songs of Faith & Inspiration.”
And Hedera, much luck with your surgery. We promise not to say anything witty while you’re gone.
cooper
November 22, 2005 at 5:12 pm
28hedera, just doing my part to put you at ease. Glad to help. And BTW, I grew up humming Bobbi Gentry’s “Ode to Billy Joe” and it has no ill effects on me. The song that really makes my teeth itch is “Big John” by Jimmy Dean. I’m glad he went into making sausages, instead of more music.
Best of luck, Sis. We’ll miss you.
Harold
November 22, 2005 at 6:02 pm
29Am I the only one who has had the song “Torture” by the Jacksons stuck in my head for the past few weeks?
Murray
November 22, 2005 at 9:28 pm
30First off, let’s go over the definitions.
Torture is what THEY do. NOT torture is what we do. No matter what happens, Torture is what happens to us, not what we do. See? Easy enough.
Motherweary, (that name describes my daughter, but I doubt she is on this site), 1, 2, 3. changed my life. I too went from “Serious but not hopeless”, to “Hopeless, but not serious”
Hedera, When Pete down under had his penile implant, or heart transplant, or what ever it was, I was batteling Lyme disease. I figured, why try to compete? Now you have a knee transplant, and I don’t even have a cold. Damn. (I sure hope it goes better than my dad’s 2 hip replacements). Good luck and talk to you when you return.
Leslie
November 22, 2005 at 10:05 pm
31We could make it really torturous and start naming disco songs…except that I’ve tried to forget as many as I can. I must have gotten the e-mail Thanksgiving card that’s a takeoff on “I Will Survive” three or four times so far. I’m trying to decide whether I’d rather hear fingernails on a chalkboard.
Hedera, you’re probably already out of touch because of your surgery, but I wish you a quick recovery as free of pain as they come. We’ll miss you!
cooper
November 22, 2005 at 10:49 pm
32Harold, yes.
cooper
November 22, 2005 at 11:11 pm
33Col. Lawrence Wilkerson has emerged recently as quite the patriot, don’t you think? http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11111.htm
Hot Tub Tommy
November 23, 2005 at 12:11 am
34I certainly didn’t count on Michael Scanlon taking a powder and singing like a canary. All of a sudden, this doesn’t look so good, even with my crooked judge.
Rep. Tom Delay (R, TX)
David
November 23, 2005 at 12:13 am
35You got that right, Cooper. Interesting when honesty, courage, and actual patriotism converge.
Qwitchebichin, Murray. Suck it up and accept you place in the universe, which is second fiddle to an Australian tallywhacker job (or whatever). On the other hand, I know a lady who got leveled by Lyme’s disease, a wonderfully progressive minister who was the last person in the world to deserve severe Lyme’s disease. I hope you got through it relatively ok. It can be devastating.
cooper
November 23, 2005 at 7:48 am
36Okay, fans o’ Felber(s), today and tomorrow many of us are driving great distances to be with loved ones. Please be careful and let the road ragers go by. With any luck and proper karma, they’ll lock horns further on down the road with yet another rager, and there be two less intemperate souls breathing our air or maybe just learning a good life lesson.
Keep the shiny side up and the rubber side down, good buddies!
dee
November 23, 2005 at 10:17 am
37Since this is a holiday weekend, I just realized there’s a good chance the “evergreen” WWDTM show I saw in Chapel Hill may be broadcast. Listen for me –I’m the one in the audience laughing loudly.
Mel
November 23, 2005 at 9:34 pm
38Hedera, I’m joining the well-wishing late, but I wanted to add that my mother just had her second knee replacement a few weeks ago, and she’s already leaping around like a young mountain goat. (She’s going to turn 80 in a couple of months.) Here’s hoping you amaze your doctors with your record-breaking recovery.
JS Narins
November 23, 2005 at 10:30 pm
39What about hobbies?
Leaping to mind is sky-diving.
You throw one guy out of plane (a friend of yours just pretending to be uncooperative? Will the chuckles never end) and everyone else inside is likely to get quite talkative.
Learning to hide the chute (and the line to open it) can be an entertaining past time. Hours of fun for the whole family.
Pete IVDL
November 29, 2005 at 11:27 am
40Muz, I don’t know an awful lot about Lyme disease, but what I do know scares the batteries outta my CHEST implant. (The penile implant is nucular powered). Sorry to take the limelight (no pun intended)…
Murray
November 29, 2005 at 8:31 pm
41Pete,
Lyme disease is cause by a Spirochete, similar to Syphilis, (only not nearly as much fun to contract). It responds to antibiotics well if caught early, which I believe mine was. If left untreated or undiagnosed it can cause permanent nerve damage. (That might be hard to determine on me). I had most of the symptoms, but not the most obvious, a bull’s eye rash, although it could have been on my scalp or other not often observed areas. My main symptom was severe neck and back pains, along with chills and fevers. It also responded quickly to antibiotics and I have no side effects, so other than a bad weekend I get a good story out of it.