It’s no secret that I enjoy bashing the mainstream media. Particularly the cable news networks, where news stories are mere placeholders between Misbehaving Celebrities, White Women In Peril, and Partisans Screaming At Each Other Without A Capable Moderator. The media is too credulous, too easily cowed, too revenue-driven, and they’ve bowed to a decade’s worth of bashing by completely abdicating judgement, even when it comes to unambiguous things like scientific fact. It’s safe to say that I’ve created a web persona based in no small part on telling you what a bunch of silly, clueless bunglers the mainstream media really are.
By the standards of the internet, though, I’m their lapdog.
Inspired by the success of the right’s campaign against the “biased media,” my brothers on the left have jumped into the bashing game with both feet. My favorite lefty blogs are now full of the same stuff that you see on the right. Here’s what both sides seem to agree upon:
- The MSM is working for the other side.
- They’re completely incompetent.
- They’re terrifyingly competent.
- They’re dupes.
- They’re cowards.
- They’re the tool of evil geniuses.
- They cunningly avoid reporting the other side’s failings.
- They pick on our guys unjustly and without mercy.
And they say that there’s no common ground in American politics.
I’ve gone to a few blogs this week (on both sides of the aisle) and entered a couple of comments suggesting that we temper our criticism a bit, maybe tar the media with a slightly narrower brush, maybe acknowledge that there are reporters all over the world fulfilling a valuable, necessary, and perhaps even heroic function. At best I’ve been ignored. At worst… well, I can’t really say, though I suppose that with therapy I may eventually be able to point out where they touched me on a suitably anonymous-looking doll.
Another thing you can find in any blog’s comment section (if not in the blog itself) is the assertion that the MSM’s days are numbered because of the bold new science of blogging. Despite the fact that just about every bloggy rant contains a link to a story written by an actual reporter doing his or her actual job, the fans of blogtopia are apparently looking forward to a day when all news is comprised solely of regular folks’ commentary on the news. The deep logical inconsistency here would crash any personal computer (or even blow it up, if you’re using Windows ME), but it seems to have the same effect on bloggers that bullets do on movie monsters: They stomp on, enraged and roaring and unaccountably stronger than ever, grab the scantily-clad heroine, and head off for the nearest skyscraper. [Or back into the swamp. Or to their underground lair. It really depends on the blogger…]
Even as I type, I know that there are hoards of bloggers out there filling in the Universal Political Blogging Template, “If [our guy] did anything like what [their guy] is doing, the media would be all over it!” Or “Finally, even the mainstream media is finding the balls to report on what a [derogatory noun] [their guy] really is!” Or “But you’ll never catch those cowards/conspirators in the MSM asking [their guy] about THAT!”
If you were to cruise the left and right wing blogs this week, you’d learn, for example, these two facts about the mainstream media:
- They never report anything good that happens in Iraq.
- They never report anything bad that happens in Iraq.
From this you might conclude that the media never reports anything that happens in Iraq. [Ironically, this is actually the case over at the popular muslim-bashing right wing blog Little Green Footballs, because mentioning any negative event in Iraq is playing directly into the left’s hands, while mentioning anything positive leads to the idea that Muslims might be capable of running a free, democratic society. So even complaining about the media’s coverage of Iraq is kept to minimum over there.]
We lefties have even taken to employing the infamous Coulter Fallacy, wherein a newspaper is criticized for something that appeared on its Op-Ed page as if it were part of the paper’s news content. These columnists are mercilessly hounded as though they were the living embodiment of What’s Wrong With That Paper, when in fact they’re just bloggers of the print world. The fact that they’ve discovered a way to get paid for writing down every passing thought really shouldn’t be held against them (damn them to hell).
I’m not arguing that the left and the right are morally equivalent. I’m a liberal, after all, so I know that we’re a collective of clear-eyed rationalists while they’re a bunch of blinded, frothing ideologues. I mean, that’s a given. But I’m loathe to embrace the new left’s adoption of the right’s relentless-screaming-about-the-media tactic. Just because it works doesn’t make it a good strategy. The race to see who can destroy journalism faster can only have one outcome: More Celebrity Trials.
So I’ll come right out and say it, though my blogging license is sure to be revoked: The mainstream media is more often than not a good thing. They report stuff. They have well-publicized standards, and if they don’t live up to them, at least we know what they’re not living up to. I like them, and I’m glad they’re here.
Whew. Okay, now let me tell you why they suck…





44 comments
Hanna
May 14, 2005 at 8:20 pm
1Somebody had to say it and I’m glad it was Adam and not me so I don’t have to spend even more of your hard-earned tax dollars seeking therapy through Medicaid.
Thank you, Adam.
Much love,
Hanna
hedera
May 14, 2005 at 9:20 pm
2You’re quite right, Adam, and I think the real thing that both side of blogtopia have in common (present company excepted) is an entire lack of manners. One of the things I enjoy about your blog site is the high standard of civility, even when there are serious disagreements on principle. Personally I dislike conflict and am put off by screaming rants, which is why I don’t like fanatics of any stripe. I keep coming back here because I can post my opinions and no one screams at me (or not very often). You have my extreme admiration for having ventured among the troglodytes; can I offer you a well-placed ice pack?
And as for the mainstream media: the San Francisco Chronicle gets a great deal of flack for not being a “real” paper (it is owned by the Hearsts); but in fact its investigative journalists regularly break big, important stories about things people need to know about. I’m not even including here the sports steroid scandals, which they broke; but they broke the California energy scams, and they were right, and they have a business columnist named David Lazarus who continually calls consumer facing industry (banking, credit cards, cable, cellphones) to task for outrageous ripoffs, some of which even cause district attorneys to pick up their ears and say, hey - that’s illegal.
I fear the extreme right doesn’t like them because fascisti don’t like any free press. I don’t know why the extreme left doesn’t like them (maybe they aren’t left enough, that often seems to be a reason). But we as a country need them, even if they do get sidetracked on celebrity trials and missing beautiful white women.
dave
May 15, 2005 at 12:44 am
3Agree that most “news” (especially on television) is cartoonish blather. But even great journalism can be found offensive by fanatics of all persuasions because of its objectivity. Blogs may never become dominant but americans do seem to increasingly want their news filtered through a lens of like-minded opinion. FOX news for conservative morons, The Daily Show for stoners and slackers, and FA for people who are, uh, smart in the head. Yeah. No stories about the Michael Jackson trial here!
David
May 15, 2005 at 1:07 am
4Well said, Mr. Felber.
JB
May 15, 2005 at 1:25 am
5A voice for civility and temperate discourse. Perhaps this will catch on. I think there is a quiet movement for more civil discussion, one example that jumps to mind being Hyundai’s acknowledgment this week that an unexpectedly large number of its car buyers let the company know, without prompting, that they didn’t want to have to listen to Howard Stern in their cars. Wether this is because people are finding their voices or coming to their senses or getting tired of the drama or something else, I don’t know. I’ve just had an inkling of a small movement towards a more civil discourse for a while. I don’t mean to say that I think this will become the next big thing, just that there seems to be a growing group of people who desire some civility in their political discussion. Perhaps I’m merely seeing what I want to see as I certainly don’t have any facts to back that impression up.
Something else I would like to see more of is independence. I would like to see more people standing up for good ideas regardless of wether they are liberal or conservative or whatnot. It’s too easy to hide behind labels. Being specific about our beliefs and reasoning, I believe, promotes responsibility, clear thinking, and civility.
Auros
May 15, 2005 at 2:26 am
6This may be kind of a digression — but why would people ask a car manufacturer to help them avoid a radio broadcaster? I mean, yes, the car manufacturer installs radios, but can’t people just change the channel? WTF?
Adam Felber
May 15, 2005 at 3:11 am
7As to Hedera’s question about why the left is now so anti-media…
I think it’s a couple of things. For one, it worked for the right - they have browbeaten the media to the point where reporters are afraid to call ‘em as they see ‘em.
Also, it’s a sort of defensive maneuver. The left has always been the defender of the press, and this made it easy for the right to question the news as a skewed and biased towards the left. By the late 90’s it became impossible for liberals to cite articles in respectable newspapers and magazines anymore, even if the information was accurate. Our president has even gotten laughs by rolling his eyes at the very CONCEPT of “respectable media.” That’s how bad it’s gotten. So now that liberals are bashing the media, we can’t be accused of being in bed with ‘em. “See? We hate ‘em just as much as you do! Now we can argue about the issues…”
Finally, it’s just an easy target. “The media” isn’t really a monolithic force. It’s not even as well-defined as “left” and “right,” at least not from an ideological standpoint. And there’s a LOT of it, hundreds and hundreds of articles and reports per day, so you can choose any bit or piece of it as emblematic of what The Media is doing wrong. In other words, it’s a ready victim for the angry and intellectually lazy, and criticizing it is an easy way to fire up the base.
Which is why it saddens me that we’re doing it. We oughta be better than that. And in the long run it’s terribly destructive. When there’s nobody left who trusts the news, the liars will be able to do anything they want.
gmc
May 15, 2005 at 6:32 am
8“When there’s nobody left who trusts the news, the liars will be able to do anything they want.”
I would say this is the way things are right now. How else to explain the country’s apathy towards all the unhappy things happening to us? (surplus becomes deficit, expensive and unpopular war based on false pretense, massive financial benefits for the wealthy and massive debt without an escape-clause for the rest of us)
We need another Enlightenment.
Murray
May 15, 2005 at 10:29 am
9Yes, if your administration produces only bad things it’s best to keep the public from believing reports on those bad things.
So, reports of voting fraud in Ohio, the destructive results of “No child left behind”, Iraq slipping into civil war, appointees who are as despicable as they are incompetent, (OK, I could go on here a long time but you get the picture).
Rather than answer the charges better to make a joke about the media and roll your eyes.
Problems solved.
David
May 15, 2005 at 11:35 am
10I just saw Alexandra Pelosi on
C-Span 2. Wish I’d seen the whole presentation. Has anyone out there read her new book, Sneaking into the Flying Circus (imagine this is in italics)?
Ann
May 15, 2005 at 1:45 pm
11Yes, someone please explain the Hyundai reference. Don’t make me do research!
JB
May 15, 2005 at 2:43 pm
12Hi. Sorry about the unclear Hyundai reference. The customers buying the Hyundai car were apparently given the choice of which Satellite radio service they wanted. I think they were XM and Sirius. I believe people didn’t want the one which broadcasts Howard Stern. The article, which has been dramatically edited from when I first saw it, is here. http://www.cnn.com/2005/AUTOS/05/13/hyundai_stern/
A relevant portion from the current version: “John Krafcik, Hyundai vice president of product development and strategic planning, told Inside Line that executives were stunned by the number of “unprompted write-ins” on the survey that said customers were “not comfortable with programming from Stern.” ”
I admit it may not have been the best illustration of my point.
Regarding GMC’s comment about apathy, I have thought that people are apathetic because they are relatively happy. The great majority of people have an overabundance of food, plenty of clothing, more than adequate shelter, and access to a mind numbing amount of entertainment. Any wrongs are, again for the vast majority, abstract. The people, in other words, are happy or at least content. There is no pressing reason, for most Americans, to not be apathetic.
Some corollaries to this: to increase voter turnout increase suffering.
apathy is a sign that the system is working.
Does this make sense? This line of reasoning occurred to me a few years ago and has worked for me since, but is disappointingly simplistic.
JB
May 15, 2005 at 2:53 pm
13I forgot to mention this from a CNN article I saw this morning.
“I want you to keep focused on what you are doing here,” Rice told diplomats and troops in Baghdad. “This war came to us, not the other way around.”
This just stuns me. It is hard to get my mind around this statement. I don’t know what to say.
chrisBix.
May 15, 2005 at 3:20 pm
14Wow! Did Condi really say that? It boggles the mind! I guess the bushies are perfecting the Orwellian concept of “1984″ Truth is a lie, war is peace etc..
But what I have to believe is that things will work out. Things are the way they are. Things and times will change. The good old rosy days of the past gave us Joseph McCarthy and black listing. Segregation was the norm and I won’t even begin on Richard Nixon.
The key for me is to talk and keep the dialogue going. The pendulum will swing back. Now are there enough mixed metaphors for you?
poorwarren
May 15, 2005 at 3:20 pm
15JB, you need to remember this is the same woman who said “Who would have expected “them” to use airplanes as missles?”
Stunned silence is an appropriate state of being to retreat to after reading Rice’s statment. But how will we respond when the administration’s supporters start parroting the same statement?
JB
May 15, 2005 at 6:14 pm
16I was just out on a walk with a friend and we discussed Rice’s comment. He pointed out that she was quite possibly referring to the fact that the United States was attacked first (9/11) and thereby inferring that Iraq was responsible for that attack. If so, then the same old points need to be made. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and the United States invaded Iraq for reasons which have still not been made clear. (This has been made even more apparent with the publication of the recent memo leaked from Downing Street.)
Nothing I’ve come across, including the leaked Downing Street memo, makes clear what the original motivating factors were for invading Iraq. I’ve often seen things that are clear in describing what some people want other people to believe the motivating factors were but, again, nothing that puts the case forward as it was originaly presented. Has this been made clear anywhere? And by that I mean have any documents surfaced or has any administrative insider come forward explaining what the original motivation truly was? I can, like everyone, else surmise it had to do with securing access to oil and/or maintaining or expanding influence in the region, but I’ve always felt that there was a personal aspect to it perhaps finishing Bush Sr.’s job. (I think conflict often stems from personal issues (though certainly not always) no matter how broad the playing field.) There may also be a religious element too, and who knows what else.
As I’ve written this it has occurred to me that there may not have been an originating moment. It may have just evolved from the response to Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait. If this is the case, it may be that the administration itself is not fully cogniscent of the reasons for the war. The administration could have made the argument that it needed to finish the job that was left undone during Operation Desert Storm, and I have not come across that line of reasoning.
hedera
May 15, 2005 at 7:06 pm
17JB, I have a dreadful feeling you may be right. Not right in the narrow sense that the administration had an inchoate feeling that they’d better “finish up” Operation Desert Storm, but right in the broader sense that nobody there has really articulated why we invaded Iraq. In short, they don’t know, and they haven’t bothered to ask the question. After all, W is “born again”, so God must (sorry, Lobster) be on his side? And if God is on your side, you must be right, yes?
(From the reviews I’ve read, it may be enlightening to go see “Kingdom of Heaven”, which is about the actual Crusades…)
Condi Rice’s statement just indicates to me that she is drinking her own kool-aid. All the bio articles I’ve seen on her have said that she’s “brilliant”. Frankly, I’ve never seen her show any sign of independent thought; she parrots the administration party line, whatever it is this week. And poorwarren, when you hear her say that “this war came to us, not the other way round”, that IS “the administration’s supporters parroting the same statement”.
tess
May 16, 2005 at 1:29 am
18hedera,
It’s a shame that either her Kool-Aid isn’t laced with poison, or that she’s so full of it she’s immune. It’s all the more pity for the rest of us who find our friends and family drinking it down.
aslam
May 16, 2005 at 3:10 am
19Right on, Adam. What’s dismaying is that those seeking to stem the rightward drift are employing the same methods - like media bashing - as their opponents, the rationale being that it worked so well for the right. This indicates these liberals’ lack of recognition of the fundamental ways in which their principles and aims (ought to) differ from those of the right.
That said, I also believe that there is a distinct pro-American bias in the American MSM of all stripes, particularly when we’re at war. This is evidenced, for example, by the US flags on the lapels of news anchors and the absence of challenge to the Administration in the run up to the war. I don’t expect this to change much, because our media can’t help being a reflection of who we are, and I doubt that most Americans would find such a bias problematic.
Jim
May 16, 2005 at 10:02 am
20While I’m all for civility in the media, I think Adam misses the fundamental difference between the conservative and liberal complaints against the press: Liberals complain when journalists don’t do their jobs; Conservatives complain when the press fails to propagandize. The conservative goal, as noted in other posts, is to discredit the “MSM”, making Fox just as good a news source as NPR. The most recent (but hardly unique) example is the Newsweek “Koran-flushing” story. Conservative critics immediately called Newsweek “un-American” (Newsweek?!) and liars, while the left is properly silent. The facts are not really in dispute and have been credibly reported several times in the last year, but Newsweek is still being picketed for it.
Liberals want the press to report facts and important news with as little analysis as possible. Liberals criticized the New York Times for Judith Miller’s terrible reporting prior to the invasion, because her facts were wrong and because politically-motivated. If Iraq had been full of Nukes, liberal criticism would have stopped. The converse of this is that Scott Ridder can’t get his face on television now because he had the facts right, but the conservatives successfully branded him as un-American for stating them.
This is why I don’t think Adam is right on this, an admittedly rare occurance. Liberals want a free and functional press, and we believe an informed electorate is vitally important to a democracy. Conservatives want a compliant press. Newsweek is so terrified of being labeled “liberal” that it apologized for a factually correct story corroborated by a Government official, following in CBS’s cowardly footsteps in “Rathergate”.
David
May 16, 2005 at 10:47 am
21Jim seems to me to have correctly described the dilemma, although I still see Adam’s point that mirroring the tactics and rhetoric of the intellectually rancid right is a mistake.
Which leaves us with The Question: how in hell do we effectively counter the Cult of Coulter which so effectively frightens the MSM, or can we? Fighting fire with fire does indeed leave a charred field. On the other hand, the conflagration is consuming us (it is certainly laying waste to Iraq).
David
May 16, 2005 at 11:10 am
22http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0516-01.htm
The headline article on today’s Common Dreams from the St. Louis Post Dispatch. Can’t wait to read the complete text of Bill Moyers’ speech. The crisis seems to me to be as severe as Moyers says it is.
Monty Zoom
May 16, 2005 at 11:34 am
23Actually, the problem with the MSM is not Liberal/Conservative bias. It is that it has increasingly grown a “populist” bias. That is, in stead of telling the readers, viewers, etc. what they NEED to hear, they tell them what the WANT to hear. They fill their news with “tabloid” type stories of missing attractive white women because that is what news viewers want to see. At least from a ratings stand-point that is what the trend appears to be. If this is going to change, viewers are going to have to ask for REAL news. Will this happen? I cannot say, but I hope it does!
Mike Z
May 16, 2005 at 12:40 pm
24tech help??
Hi all. Has anyone else faced a problem posting comments on the new FA? When I try to post from my normal computer, I get sent to a blank page and my comments don’t show up. Any advice?
Thanks.
Steve
May 16, 2005 at 1:05 pm
25Adam: Small correction — In the third from last paragraph, it’s “loath“, not “loathe.
For a fairly decent critique of the media, may I be so bold as to point you at Harry Shearer’s Eat the Press bloglet at over at the The Huffington Post.
Oh, this new comments section needs a “Preview” button.
Dave
May 16, 2005 at 6:45 pm
26I agree with Jim.
With all due respect, Adam’s criticism reminds me of the statement that Anne Coulter and Michael Moore are equivalents. This ignores the fact that Coulter makes shit up and Moore doesn’t. Yes, Moore has an agenda, but he doesn’t just pull stuff out of his ass the way Coulter does.
It is true that the MSM lets stuff slide for Republicans that Democrats would be nailed to the wall for. Imagine Jim/Jeff Gannon/Guckert in a Democrat White House press. They’d be all over it. Perhaps Adam doesn’t remember the Clinton years all that well. In the meantime, check out Media Matters for America
another Jim
May 16, 2005 at 7:09 pm
27I’ve always believed that this:
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/09/27/bush.war.talk/
pretty well explains W’s motivations. (Apologies for the lack of html skill.)
His dad is a success; he’s not (at least not under his own power), and in his heart, he knows it. I suspect he worships his dad, at least subconsciously and wants to be like him (to the point of usurping Jeb’s place in the dynasty. It was Jeb who was being groomed to be president.)
In short: its’ personal.
Therapy would’ve been sooo much cheaper.
Jerry
May 16, 2005 at 8:43 pm
28Only relatively on point, but: rather than copy and paste, I’m just gonna refer to my own rant. This is some of the scariest shit I have seen.
And for Pete IVDL: if you catch this, a friend just gave me one of the best Oz/US quotes I’ve seen. “An Australian, talking with an American: “I’m glad we got the convicts and you got the pilgrims.”"
Pete IVDL
May 16, 2005 at 8:49 pm
29Rupert Murdoch himself (or ‘Rupe’ to his friend) has publicly stated that he has no problems with the use of blogs in his organisation to substantiate and/or comment on MSM ’stories’. He was at least honest enough to point out that a clear distinction must be made to ensure accurate reporting was not confused with personal opinions.
On the other claw, the Wall Street Journal was caught red-handed last week when they tried to suggest that a blog linked to from their primary site was not less journalistically rigorous simply because it echoed their main story’s point of view.
So I’m confused (as a webmaster) if linking to sites (whether it’s a Good Liberal Site or a Bad Evil Horrible Conservative Sewerpit) without a disclaimer the same as tarring the linker with the same brush? Is this kind of freeform hyperlinking going to become Politically Corrected? I hope not. But then, that’s just My ™ Opinion (r) (C) Copyright, 2005, Peter’s Pulpit ™
P.S. Sorry if I haven’t offended anyone.
Pete IVDL
May 16, 2005 at 8:57 pm
30Jerry, you’re damned right. Unfortunately, the convicts are starting to think like the pilgrims.
Lobsterdammit, what’s to stop Real Journalists from reporting what they want, as they see it? (Oh, right, their editor). Maybe blogs aren’t as bad as some people may think. Even if we do disagree with opinions expressed therein. Violently, in some cases.
Does commenting on a blog make me a pundit?
David
May 16, 2005 at 10:44 pm
31Another Jim,
“Therapy would have been sooooooo much cheaper.”
Oh, and so much less lethal.
PIVDL,
Hell, if you don’t offend someone, you ain’t wrote nuthin’ worth readin’ - besides, with all that felonious ancestry…
Jerry
May 17, 2005 at 4:09 am
32“the liars will be able to do anything they want” Adam
No shit…Condi today: “This war came to us, not the other way around.” The mind boggles. She said this to troops in Iraq. Who cheered (according to the press, so…)
**************
Ain’t it cool that Adam gets his own color box? But could we please have the preview function? I really don’t want people to know what a fumble-fingered typist I am! Thanks!!
And “Moderation is active”? If we have to be moderate here Lobster knows what will happen!
Adam Felber
May 17, 2005 at 4:24 am
33I would never try to argue that Ann Coulter and Michael Moore are morally equivalent. As I said, I don’t think the two sides are symmetrical - the right is run by empowered extremists these days, and things are out of balance.
This post was about media bashing, nothing else. Take a trip over to Eschaton (the indispensable touchstone of lefty blogs), and make sure you read the comments. You’ll see what I mean. Some of the more vehement participants are starting to sound exactly like the yahoos over at FreeRepublic.
I can understand the left’s desire to curb its counterproductive tendency towards self-criticism. But helping the right convince America that the newspaper is full of nothing but lies, that truth is negotiable no matter where you read it, that journalism is nothing but propaganda… That’s insane when you consider the long-term effects.
Not that you shouldn’t take a newspaper or network to task when it ignores the truth. But this broad-stroke contempt for the news media is facile, lazy, and dangerous.
music and meaning
May 17, 2005 at 5:53 am
34Mike Z, Steve, and Jerry: I’ve addressed your concerns in the “Welcome! We’re Not Ready!” comments thread.
If anyone else has suggestions or difficulties with the tech side of the blog — they’re all very welcome, but if you can, please leave your feedback in that thread. It’s easier for me to keep track of; we’ll help keep the other comment threads on-topic, as well. Thanks!
Mary
May 17, 2005 at 9:22 am
35Gosh, I *got* Adam’s point. Do I get a star?
Seriously, it is a problem when the MSM becomes the story and not the facts or lack of them. This whole Newsweek fiasco is a case in point. Was Newsweek wrong? Yes. Does that mean Newsweek is always wrong? No. Reporters do the best (hopefully) they can and admit when they make mistakes- unlike the administration. But the unwashed masses don’t see the difference and, due to all the diatribes, thinks the MSM is always wrong.
The loyal opposition needs to oppose the message, not the messenger.
Steve
May 17, 2005 at 9:51 am
36Another suggestion for reading material. Tom Fenton, veteran CBS foreign correspondent from waaaaaay back in the days when CBS had foreign correspondents, not to mention a shred of integrity, has written a scathing (and, to be fair, somewhat petulant and self-serving) critique of the news business, Bad News: The Decline of Reporting, the Business of News, and the Danger to Us All.
I’m about halfway through the book and though I cannot wholeheartedly agree with some of the conclusions he makes in the foreign policy domain, which seem to have a whiff of xenophobia about them, and his apparent adulation of Ronald Reagan, who he claims “won” the cold war, makes my toes itch, he certainly knows his business as a working reporter.
The problem is not so much that the newspapers and networks are full of lies but that they’re full of crap. “News You Can Use“, the latest diet fad, and, of course, the celebrity trial du jour have replaced any reportage of substance.
All of this nonsense, of course, is framed by a slavish devotion not to public service but to the bottom line. I don’t think there’s any “vast left|right wing conspiracy”. There’s a vast conspiracy led by the MBAs and accountants in the executive suites of the networks who only know how to read a profit and loss statement that have replaced people who knew how to read world events.
It’s sad and I’m not particularly sanguine about the future for our nation and the world in general because of this.
By the way, I love the new live preview feature. Way cool. I’ll trot over to the other thread now and laud my fullsome praise on the web/blogmeister.
Pete IVDL
May 17, 2005 at 5:41 pm
37Fuck Off!
Sorry, I channeled Scotty for a minute there. I miss his insightful comments.
On a less hilarious note… Isn’t it funny (funny peculiar, not funny Felber) that once again we try honestly to figure out what’s not right about this whole issue, and lying cold and slimy at the bottom of the barrel is…. bu$ine$$. (Thanks, Steve!)
I don’t have any problems with earning a buck, but I prefer to a) do it honestly, 2) do it in a way that is at least minimally sustainable (for me and my customers), and iii) not aimed at making me rich at the expense of The Great Unwashed. To deny someone medical assistance (directly or indirectly) on the basis of what profit figures are desired seems to me almost as bad as presenting “news” based on what will sell to the greatest market share.
But then again, maybe that’s just my felonious past…
Pete IVDL
May 17, 2005 at 5:44 pm
38(Good thing I’m not a hermit, or I’d be a Felonious Monk)
Emmarie
May 17, 2005 at 9:31 pm
39My complaint with the media is usually its superoversimplication of things. And yes, the debate of facts as if they were opinions is obnoxious too. But we just talked about media literacy in a class, and one of the big points that was drilled into our heads is that the media is a commerical enterprise. It surprised me that this was supposed to be a shock.
So here’s what I say. Acknowledge that while the media are generally trying to report truth, t they are also trying to make money. So often we (and I’m not sure exactly who I mean here) talk about this as if it’s a bad thing. Maybe it’s not. Maybe it’s just a thing. And maybe if we stop attributing problems in reporting to that thing, we can do something more constructive. Like blaming the consumers instead. Yeah, that’s constructive…
Anyway, my point is that we (again, the vast “we” of the world) blame something that’s not going to change and maybe isn’t all that bad. After all, how many stations do you want to have to support yourself?
David
May 18, 2005 at 12:20 am
40Try #2,
My post went Lobster-knows-where and an FBI warning style message came up that I wasn’t Java scripted or something. Java is coffee, and I have coffee.
This is a test just to see what the hell happens, since I’ve been posting away without having a clue what all the stuff about Java script, etc., means.
David
May 18, 2005 at 12:33 am
41Damn,
It worked. It’s Newman’s Organic Fair Trade French Roast, incidentally.
The post I lost was an attempt to acknowledge Emmarie’s point, which is well taken, but Bill Moyers did give one hell of a speech in Anheuser-Buschville this past weekend.
It is a Cheneying conspiracy involving very, very large amounts of money by people who know how to exploit the weaknesses inherent in the commercial nature of the media and our society.
So back to Emmarie’s point - gotta change the consumers. Hooo-aaahhh (or however it’s spelled).
PIVDL,
I do enjoy providing the set-up sometimes, especially if the follow-up comes from the bottom of the other side of the planet. I’m old enough that this is all still a bit amazing.
Mary
May 18, 2005 at 11:33 am
42Peter IVDL- loved the pun. It is rare to get a good jazz reference. ;-D
As for changing the consumers, in which incarnation?
Hanna
May 23, 2005 at 11:28 am
43Kevin Drum stole your idea, Adam.
I’d sue.
Love,
Hanna
John E Thelin
May 29, 2005 at 6:35 am
44Sterlign piece, even though I believe - having experienced news reporting in a couple of other countries - that US news reporting post-9/11 is historically among the worst in a non-totalitarian nation. Yep, it’s that bad.
And also, you LOATHE doing something, you ARE LOATH to do something.