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		<title>by: Pete IVDL</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/05/12/new-policies/#comment-8917</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 22:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Love your work, Jerry. Armchair generals love to fight, eh? 'Specially with someone else's children.</description>
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		<title>by: David</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/05/12/new-policies/#comment-8841</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2005 02:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>tess,

Indeed I am - dickless, soulless, merciless, insightless (this list could just take over and start extending itself, kind of like our neocolonial military garrisons on behalf of Halliburton et. al.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tess,</p>
<p>Indeed I am - dickless, soulless, merciless, insightless (this list could just take over and start extending itself, kind of like our neocolonial military garrisons on behalf of Halliburton et. al.
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		<title>by: tess</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/05/12/new-policies/#comment-8833</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2005 21:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jerry,

Wow, I mean, WOW.  That's pretty complete.

David,

Are you thinking of a "dickless" Dick?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry,</p>
<p>Wow, I mean, WOW.  That&#8217;s pretty complete.</p>
<p>David,</p>
<p>Are you thinking of a &#8220;dickless&#8221; Dick?
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		<title>by: Murray</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/05/12/new-policies/#comment-8815</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2005 14:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jerry,

Excellent!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry,</p>
<p>Excellent!
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		<title>by: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/05/12/new-policies/#comment-8812</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2005 07:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>David...it is, indeed. Lots of good info &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Tom+Lantos+Raoul+Wallenberg&#38;sourceid=mozilla-search&#38;start=0&#38;start=0&#38;ie=utf-8&#38;oe=utf-8" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David&#8230;it is, indeed. Lots of good info <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Tom+Lantos+Raoul+Wallenberg&amp;sourceid=mozilla-search&amp;start=0&amp;start=0&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8" rel="nofollow">here</a>.
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		<title>by: David</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/05/12/new-policies/#comment-8808</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2005 05:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jerry,

I'd never seen such a complete list.  Talk about "No Comment Required".... Fascinating about Tom Lantos.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;d never seen such a complete list.  Talk about &#8220;No Comment Required&#8221;&#8230;. Fascinating about Tom Lantos.
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		<title>by: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/05/12/new-policies/#comment-8802</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2005 19:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>David - Hardly just Cheney...avoiding the service they advocate is something of a skill with most of them:

Republicans
* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
* Tom Delay: did not serve.
* Roy Blunt: did not serve.
* Bill Frist: did not serve.
* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
* Rick Santorum: did not serve.
* Trent Lott: did not serve.
* Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.
* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
* Jeb Bush: did not serve.
* Karl Rove: did not serve.
* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Cleland's patriotism.
* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
* Vin Weber: did not serve.
* Richard Perle: did not serve.
* Douglas Feith: did not serve.
* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
* Richard Shelby: did not serve.
* Jon! Kyl: did not serve.
* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
* Christopher Cox: did not serve.
* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.
* George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared from duty.
* Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role making movies.
* B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.
* Phil Gramm: did not serve.
* John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.
* Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
* John M. McHugh: did not serve.
* JC Watts: did not serve.
* Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," although continued in NFL for 8 years.
* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.
* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
* George Pataki: did not serve.
* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
* John Engler: did not serve.
* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.

Pundits &#38; Preachers
* Sean Hannity: did not serve.
* Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
* Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.
* Michael Savage: did not serve.
* George Will: did not serve.
* Chris Matthews: did not serve.
* Paul Gigot: did not serve.
* Bill Bennett: did not serve.
* Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
* John Wayne: did not serve.
* Bill Kristol: did not serve.
* Kenneth Starr: did not serve.
* Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
* Clarence Thomas: did not serve.
* Ralph Reed: did not serve.
* Michael Medved: did not serve.
* Charlie Daniels: did not serve.
* Ted Nugent! : did not serve. (He only shoots at things that don't shoot back.)

However, they really can't turn to the Democrats for advice:

* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
* Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.
* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.
* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, Purple Hearts.
* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.
* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star &#38; Bronze Star, Vietnam.
* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.
* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
* Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars, and Soldier's Medal.
* Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit.
* Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
* Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V.
* Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.
* Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
* Chuck Robb: Vietnam
* Howell Heflin: Silver Star
* George McGovern: Silver Star &#38; DFC during WWII.
* Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments.
Entered draft but received #311.
* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953
* John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David - Hardly just Cheney&#8230;avoiding the service they advocate is something of a skill with most of them:</p>
<p>Republicans<br />
* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.<br />
* Tom Delay: did not serve.<br />
* Roy Blunt: did not serve.<br />
* Bill Frist: did not serve.<br />
* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.<br />
* Rick Santorum: did not serve.<br />
* Trent Lott: did not serve.<br />
* Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.<br />
* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.<br />
* Jeb Bush: did not serve.<br />
* Karl Rove: did not serve.<br />
* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. &#8220;Bad knee.&#8221; The man who attacked Cleland&#8217;s patriotism.<br />
* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.<br />
* Vin Weber: did not serve.<br />
* Richard Perle: did not serve.<br />
* Douglas Feith: did not serve.<br />
* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.<br />
* Richard Shelby: did not serve.<br />
* Jon! Kyl: did not serve.<br />
* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.<br />
* Christopher Cox: did not serve.<br />
* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.<br />
* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.<br />
* George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared from duty.<br />
* Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role making movies.<br />
* B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.<br />
* Phil Gramm: did not serve.<br />
* John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.<br />
* Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.<br />
* John M. McHugh: did not serve.<br />
* JC Watts: did not serve.<br />
* Jack Kemp: did not serve. &#8220;Knee problem,&#8221; although continued in NFL for 8 years.<br />
* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.<br />
* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.<br />
* George Pataki: did not serve.<br />
* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.<br />
* John Engler: did not serve.<br />
* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.</p>
<p>Pundits &amp; Preachers<br />
* Sean Hannity: did not serve.<br />
* Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a &#8216;pilonidal cyst.&#8217;)<br />
* Bill O&#8217;Reilly: did not serve.<br />
* Michael Savage: did not serve.<br />
* George Will: did not serve.<br />
* Chris Matthews: did not serve.<br />
* Paul Gigot: did not serve.<br />
* Bill Bennett: did not serve.<br />
* Pat Buchanan: did not serve.<br />
* John Wayne: did not serve.<br />
* Bill Kristol: did not serve.<br />
* Kenneth Starr: did not serve.<br />
* Antonin Scalia: did not serve.<br />
* Clarence Thomas: did not serve.<br />
* Ralph Reed: did not serve.<br />
* Michael Medved: did not serve.<br />
* Charlie Daniels: did not serve.<br />
* Ted Nugent! : did not serve. (He only shoots at things that don&#8217;t shoot back.)</p>
<p>However, they really can&#8217;t turn to the Democrats for advice:</p>
<p>* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.<br />
* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.<br />
* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.<br />
* Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.<br />
* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.<br />
* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.<br />
* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, Purple Hearts.<br />
* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.<br />
* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star &amp; Bronze Star, Vietnam.<br />
* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.<br />
* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.<br />
* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.<br />
* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.<br />
* Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars, and Soldier&#8217;s Medal.<br />
* Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit.<br />
* Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.<br />
* Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V.<br />
* Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.<br />
* Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57<br />
* Chuck Robb: Vietnam<br />
* Howell Heflin: Silver Star<br />
* George McGovern: Silver Star &amp; DFC during WWII.<br />
* Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments.<br />
Entered draft but received #311.<br />
* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.<br />
* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953<br />
* John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.<br />
* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.
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		<title>by: hedera</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/05/12/new-policies/#comment-8801</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2005 19:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks, Murray!  That's what I read, all right.  Molly gets carried by the S.F. Chron on their OpEd page, when they feel like it - there doesn't seem to be a pattern.  But they printed that column and that's what I read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Murray!  That&#8217;s what I read, all right.  Molly gets carried by the S.F. Chron on their OpEd page, when they feel like it - there doesn&#8217;t seem to be a pattern.  But they printed that column and that&#8217;s what I read.
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		<title>by: David</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/05/12/new-policies/#comment-8800</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2005 13:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Tess,

Maybe they could contact Dick Cheney for pointers on how to avoid being drafted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tess,</p>
<p>Maybe they could contact Dick Cheney for pointers on how to avoid being drafted.
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		<title>by: tess</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/05/12/new-policies/#comment-8799</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2005 08:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>One good thing is that I'm unlikely to be drafted with the new sexist rules.  Bad news is that my boyfriend and my brothers are at risk of becoming cannon fodder for a war that none of them support.  Makes me glad I was too lazy to join up ROTC to pay for college.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One good thing is that I&#8217;m unlikely to be drafted with the new sexist rules.  Bad news is that my boyfriend and my brothers are at risk of becoming cannon fodder for a war that none of them support.  Makes me glad I was too lazy to join up ROTC to pay for college.
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