From Reuters:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Fifty-nine former U.S. diplomats oppose the nomination of John Bolton to be American ambassador to the United Nations, according to a letter to be delivered to a key congressional lawmaker on Tuesday.
Bolton was nominated by President Bush, a Republican, three weeks ago amid complaints from Democrats that he is a polarizing figure who has shown disdain for the United Nations.
“We urge you to reject that nomination,” the former diplomats said in a letter to Richard Lugar, the chairman of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
The former diplomats, who have served presidents from Richard Nixon to Bill Clinton, took issue with what they said was Bolton’s view that the United Nations is valuable only when it directly serves the interest of the Unites States.
The letter’s signees include Gerald Helman, former ambassador to the United Nations under President Jimmy Carter; Roger Kirk, former ambassador to Somalia and Romania under Nixon, Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan and Princeton Lyman, former U.S. ambassador to South Africa and Nigeria under Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and Clinton.
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[In order to accomodate my audience in this new, more conservative era, I’ve asked my colleague G. Frank Butterman to guest-blog here occasionally. Please welcome him. - Adam]
Hi. Great to be here.
Well, at least the liberals have been forced out into the open again where we can see ‘em. The crypto-liberals too. You know, those so-called “conservative appointees” who worked as “diplomats” instead of helping us kick some ass. People from the so-called “State Department” (which, by the way, oughta be called the “Statement Department,” ‘cuz that’s all they do - make statements! Feel free to use that one.)
Let me say this: Bolton is going to get approved. So this is all academic, and as you know I have no love for academics, “intellectuals,” and anyone else who considers themselves smarter than your average American just because they’ve “devoted their lives” to “learning” at our nation’s “finest” “schools.” Knowing a few more “facts” and being trained in “critical thinking” doesn’t mean you’re any more qualified than the next guy. Running the world ain’t exactly rocket science, y’know.
I’m digressing, I know.
Anyway, as for Bolton and the Unnecessary Nations, can I reintroduce you to UN for a second? They’re the do-nothings that tried to stop us from going into Iraq! Why? Maybe you don’t remember, but they appointed the Two Stooges known as “Blix” and “El Baradei” to “inspect” Iraq for illegal weapons. And then those idiots kept running back to New York to report that all was well and that Iraq probably didn’t HAVE chemical, biological, or nuclear arms! Well, that makes sense - after all, the UN had spent 10 years trying to disarm the guy peacefully, and we were the only ones with the guts to point out that it wasn’t working!
Well, needless to say we ignored the head-in-the-sand crowd, marched into Baghdad, and the rest is part of freedom’s li’l history book. As for Blix and El Baradei’s “fact-finding…” it turned out not to matter, didn’t it? Just like the Useless Nations itself.
That’s why we need a guy like Bolton in there, to tell the oil-for-fooders what America thinks of “diplomacy.” It has its place. And that place is the 20th century.





56 comments
bjd
March 29, 2005 at 6:10 pm
1Hello G Frank Butterman. Wow, your concise and devastatingly intelligent discourse on the folly of diplomacy has made me decide to abandon my wanton liberal ways.
Our way or we’ll kick your ass to the highway! Gosh darn, someone give me a beer and a big steak!!! Yeehaw!
Mike Z
March 29, 2005 at 6:32 pm
2Yo, G.
Yes…more and more of those who used to be called “moderates,” and even some who were deep undercover in the conservative wing of the GOP are finally showing their true liberal mindset. In fact, as the president’s ratings continue to decline, the term “liberal” continues to expand and devour everything in its path like the blob.
On a related note, I thought I’d pass on an interesting story. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050327/lf_afp/uspolitic sreligion_050327225409
As discussed in here before, a Pennsylvania school district is trying to force its biology teachers to talk about intelligent design. The best quote from a supporter is “We’ve been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture.” This statement is amazingly eloquent if you consider who the “we” must be referring to.
Scott
March 29, 2005 at 6:56 pm
3I have this weird feeling that Adam wakes up tired every morning and he doesn’t know why… and there is an encrypted partition on his hard drive that he doesn’t know about… and deposits in his bank accounts , the source of which is a mystery… and somewhere a psychologist who is writing a very interesting article about very split personalites. He will entitle it the Carville-Matlin complex.
Ann
March 29, 2005 at 8:03 pm
4“History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose.”
[Thomas Jefferson to Baron von Humboldt, 1813]
Ann
March 29, 2005 at 8:04 pm
5Sorry for going off-topic. Mike Z started it!
Deno the Untergeek
March 29, 2005 at 8:04 pm
6The whole idea of the UN was to keep the US and Russia in indirect control of the world. Nothing more, nothing less. There’s no doubt about the obvious bias that went into the creation and the founding of the UN. I guess it’s a shock though when it acts independantly of the US or Russia. Not so much Russia anymore as the US. Rediculous? I think not.
Emmarie
March 29, 2005 at 8:14 pm
7Hey, we’ve already started taking over the western hemisphere, why not the UN?
Maybe, after we’re done convincing people in El Salvador that they can send their armadillos to the U.S. for a living after CAFTA passes the Senate, we can get the Eastern Hemisphere to agree to the same sort of nonsense and get products sold out of the U.S. all over the world. Woot!
Murray
March 29, 2005 at 9:04 pm
8So when are we going to see the “Get US out of the UN” billboards again?
Mike Z
Dover isn’t the school district I teach in but there is a very heavy religious bend in the schools.
As it happens two weeks ago I had a week long stint in a 7th grade science class and guess what the topic was? Sure enough it was evolution. Only on the last day did one girl in one class ask “What about the Bible?” I explained that the Bible is not a science text book and that believing the evidence of evolution didn’t preclude believing in God just as my biology professors did.
(I even tuned a radio between stations and played the static which is the background radiation of the big bang)
dee
March 29, 2005 at 11:15 pm
9Ah yes…Get US out of the UN. Then we can start in about that fluoride in the water again. Remember when the John Birch Society was the craziest outfit around?
Good times.
Deno the Untergeek
March 29, 2005 at 11:26 pm
10Haha…funny thing. As you drive into Grand Junction, Colorado on US 50 and cross the bridge over the Colorado, there’s a huge sign saying GET THE US OUT OF THE UN! and IF NAFTA HASN’T COST YOU YOUR JOB YET…
Courtesy of the Birchers, naturally.
Ah well. Nuts are nuts, be they Republicans or John Birchers alike.
Bob
March 30, 2005 at 12:18 am
11Would someone please remove the quotation mark from Mr. Butterman’s keyboard before he hurts himself?
tess
March 30, 2005 at 12:56 am
12You know, that whole acting like the UN is multilateral worked for a couple of years, but it’s high-time we admitted who was really in power: mice. Yes, those rascally little creatures that we glue to cardboard traps to starve to death and poison at every opportunity are really hell-bent of creating international organizations to bring peace and prosperity to all nations so they have new nest sites in warm, heated houses with plenty of food and nesting material to raise their little micelings, or mouselings, or whatever they’re called.
So I say we strike down the vermin mice for undermining our determination to destroy ourselves! Who here is with me?
Tom M
March 30, 2005 at 3:33 am
13Murray,
the Bible IS a science text book, its just that its a ~4000 year old science text book. I’d love to have seen the reaction of the Israelites if Moses had come down off the mountain with the ten commandments in one hand and the complete Grand Unified Theory in the other.
Anyway, I thought the UN was created so that the former collonial powers of Britain and France could get to act as if they were still important.
ghani
March 30, 2005 at 7:43 am
14It’s most certainly not a science textbook. More like a combined history and ethics textbook (that’s ~4000-1800 years old).
And the Isrealites probably wouldn’t have understood the GUT at all. Even today realtivly few people understand it.
Thompson
March 30, 2005 at 10:17 am
15Erm. Last I heard, the Grand Unification Theory was still unfinished. I don’t claim my knowledge on the subject is up-to-date, though. Someone finally figure that one out?
And, just to stay vaguely on-topic, sure, tess. I’m in. Just let me get my mallet of percussive instruction.
Jerry
March 30, 2005 at 2:11 pm
16dee -
What great memories you little comment brought back. I hadn’t thought about this in years! When I was in high school, the John Birch Society headquarters was in San Marino. (Still alive, they are now in Wisconsin.) This was just a five minute drive from the (substantially less affluent) neighborhood where I lived. My merry band of fellow nerds and misfits made a couple dozen pilgrimages to the office, and had enormous fun with the staff.
No one there was under 60, and usually older, and they never seemed to recognize us, and were always thrilled that “young people” cared enough about America to visit them. We collected bumper stickers, including the current “Impeach Earl Warren” ones, and engaged in dialogue with them.
Without going on and on here, my favorite moment was when one of the girls asked them to tell us the story of John Birch. Three of them gathered ’round, amplifying each other’s telling of the story. We listened to the tale (which at that time included him spitting in the faces of his Chicom captors.) The girl, mouth slightly open with ‘admiration,’ waited until they finished. After pausing a few seconds, she asked, “But, but, why didn’t he kick them in the balls?” I think she may have killed one of those poor folks, as surely as fluoride in the drinking water would.
Jerry
March 30, 2005 at 2:16 pm
17Oh, and let’s have more of the balance that G. Frank Buttermen brings to this forum. He is a refreshing breeze through the liberal miasma I usually find here! Who can argue with his statement, “As for Blix and El Baradei’s “fact-finding…” it turned out not to matter, didn’t it?” Incisive and, oh, I don’t know…maybe ‘poignant?’
Pete in Van Diemen's Land
March 30, 2005 at 4:13 pm
18G’day, “G”. (What’s the G for? I really like to know things like that…)
, Wolfie is head of the World Bank, and now this Bolton dude is going to single-handedly wedgie the UN.
Let’s see… Condoleezzzza Rice is Secretary of Statements (I really liked that and took your advice and used it
It only goes to prove that Dubya does read enough to know that those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat the history written by the winners. And he’s making sure he’s on the top of this one!
Has anyone else noticed that this gosh-darn blog is one of the few places where Dubya, ID, GUT, and cosmic background radiation (nicely done, by the way, Murray) can be mentioned in the same page? (Oh, stupid question. Sorry)
-The Artist Formerly Known As PC Pete
Jerry
March 30, 2005 at 4:29 pm
19Oh, Pete in Van Diemen’s Land (this is a pain in the butt, now I have to cut and paste everytime I talk to you!), you just haven’t been watching enough US tellie. “G’” obviously stands for “God’s!” It is what it stands for here, and if misused, subjects the radio or television station to fines of over US$500,000. Oh, sure, maybe to the rest of the world, it means “Good,” but our theocracy has beat that blasphenous notion out of our heads, as it has instilled a loathing for the site of a female human nipple. Except on National Geographic shows, of course.
Auros
March 30, 2005 at 5:44 pm
20The Club For Growth is sliming a conservative Republican Senator from Kentucky for not being conservative enough:
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/blog/archives/020039.php?PHPSESSID=3e6d61 2a88d8fe17b1f5de5b6e24ce54
Let the circular firing squad commence!
Jerry
March 30, 2005 at 6:14 pm
21Auros - Thanks for the link! I especially loved two concepts in the ad (pathetically juvenile, stupid, and amateurish as it is; but then, they do know their audience!)). First and foremost is the derision of someone who thinks we should actually pay for stuff as we go. Second, the profoundly absurd idea that the program would “wipe-out mcuh of the Bush tax cuts!” as if those cuts helped the working man in the first place. Arrggghhhhhh!
Toots
March 30, 2005 at 7:13 pm
2242 Tess!! I wonder if the rest of the world has gotten an SEP and thrown it over our beloved ‘Murika? I don’t know why but I feel like we’re cloaked somehow. Maybe we’re contagious?
Murray
March 30, 2005 at 7:48 pm
23Pete IVDL
Howdy
Leave it to the British to send their criminals to Australia and their puritans to the US. Lobsterdamn them!
Liz
March 30, 2005 at 8:05 pm
24Whoa, hey — is there a problem with fluoride in the water? We here in Utah just took the plunge and added it last year. (We’ve got good billboards, too.)
dee
March 30, 2005 at 10:22 pm
25Fluoride in the water is a Communist plot
And in the words of General Jack D. Ripper, “I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.”
Bob
March 30, 2005 at 11:00 pm
26Forget fluoride; what the hell do they put in Mountain Dew?
tess
March 31, 2005 at 1:08 am
27Bob:
Sweet, sweet, radioactive caffine. I’ve become so hooked on it I can’t go to lecture without a can in my hand. I’m going through withdrawel symptoms as we speak, and the bees just aren’t going away!
Murray:
I’m starting to think that the Aussies got the better deal, though strangely it seems that both countries have their fair share of morons mucking up the politics.
Maybe the theory that we’re evolved to live in caves and forest instead of Lobsterforsaken flat lands that stretch as far as the eye can see isn’t as far off as first proposed (and I’m sure someone here proposed it, but I can’t think for the life of me who).
Murray
March 31, 2005 at 8:27 am
28Bob,
I understand (and drink) Mountain Dew sugar free, but CAFFEINE free Mountain Dew? Are they crazy? What, do they think we drink it for the taste?
Tess,
Flat land is easy to farm but I think it’s bad for the soul. That’s why most Americans live only a couple of hours from our oceans or great lakes. (I’ll take the mountains).
Johnnyboy
March 31, 2005 at 12:39 pm
29I for one can’t wait to see and hear John Bolton bring the entire U.N general assembly to tears of joy with his rendition of “How am I supposed to live without you”. Get ready to watch entire delegations start to grow mullets in admiration.
Oh, and if the US got the puritans and Australia got the cons, who did Canada get ?
Kara
March 31, 2005 at 1:07 pm
30Erm, did I miss something? Because I’m pretty sure that the “headlines” “today” “say”, as they have been for two years, that our intelligence (that word actually deserves the quoty fingers) was all wrong, and for 15 millionth time are are admitting that no, there were no WMD’s in Iraq. So this whole “the UN was too wussy and we had to go blow shit up on our own” arguments is, well, shit.
Mary
March 31, 2005 at 1:57 pm
31Canada got the Quebecois and HRH on their stamps & money.
Considering the job Celluci did while Ambassador to Canada, Bolton’s appointment is just business as usual for W.
(If you can, check out Rick Mercer’s Monday Report on CBC or the net. Wonderful insight on the US from our neighbors to the north.)
Pete in Van Diemen's Land
March 31, 2005 at 5:13 pm
32Sigh. Yes, you’re right - “Australia, as everybody knows, is entirely peopled with criminals”. That’s how come our pollies are almost worse than US pollies. At least the common ancestry explains a LOT!
Hey, I thought Mountain Dew was pure, untainted, dew… from, er, mountains… oh, shoot, now it’s got flouride in it? Hey, I’m learning way too much for my own good.
If Dubya keeps handing off his conservative puritan friends like this, we’re going to have the world’s first Global Redneck Supercop. Oh, my Lobster.
Jerry
March 31, 2005 at 6:46 pm
33“…the world’s first Global Redneck Supercop.”
Am I seeing “Buford T. Justice” in a cape, saying, “What we have here is a total lack of respect for the law!” while the world, having no more regard for us than “Bo Darville” did for “authority” goes on it’s merry way? Why can’t we have “Cab Chamberlin” raised up and dropped down all hep and soulful? But that’s just movies, eh?
(Pete IVDL - we don’t think you’re all criminals…just the progeny of criminals. We, on the other hand, are all descendants of courageous freedom-loving industious, though rebellious, heros. Except maybe for the moonshiners of the Whiskey Rellion, which was another rebellion, but sort of against, well, us.)
Murray
March 31, 2005 at 8:15 pm
34Whisky Rebellion? Hey, that’s my neighbors here in south central PA. There’s still lots of moonshine in these here mountains.
hedera
March 31, 2005 at 9:27 pm
35Getting back to Moses and the Israelites and the GUT, I’ve never understood why the Israelites didn’t throw something at Moses when he came down from the mountain. At that point they’d been wandering in the wilderness for 40 years, yes? And he brings down two stone tablets full of instructions that all begin “thou shalt not”.
Not that anybody then or now understands the GUT…
Jerry
March 31, 2005 at 10:54 pm
36I would be a lot more impressed myself if any ancient (or modern) religious documents included one thing that the science of the time hadn’t discovered, or even didn’t include wrong information. I want the giant milkshake and not the cheap card tricks.
Murray
April 1, 2005 at 6:34 am
37I’m with Jerry here. The Bible never goes outside of the prevailing science and morality, so the earth has four corners and slavery is just fine. Jesus, being God, must have known how things work, said many things his disciples didn’t understand, yet never let on that most of what they believed about the world was wrong. I’d be more willing to believe that he was God if he had just tipped his hat for those of us in the future.
Pete in Van Diemen's Land
April 1, 2005 at 4:29 pm
38…or maybe we only get to hear the “sanitised” version of what JC said. It’s possible, I suppose, that he said much more, but the early compilers of the bible left out what they didn’t agree with/didn’t think it would “sell well”.
Of course, as everybody knows, if you take the cubed root of the numismatic values of the Ten (remaining) Commandments and plot the imaginary axis you get M-string theory…
David
April 1, 2005 at 6:58 pm
39Pete in V.D. Land,
I get the G-string Theory.
Jerry
April 1, 2005 at 8:30 pm
40Pete IVDL - Truly, the ‘Bible’ is just a few books that were found acceptable to the Council of Nicea, so “THE QUANTUM STATE OF THE UNIVERSE” might have been one of those excluded. There is some evidence that Hawking discovered a scroll as he clambered around the hills of the Middle East, and plagurized most of his work from it.
hedera
April 2, 2005 at 12:09 am
41This would be before the ALS paralyzed Hawking, right, Jerry?
We may be about to learn more about the Bible than some people are comfortable with. There’s a project under way at the British Library (see the March 23 Economist) to digitize the Codex Sinaiticus, apparently including all the scattered pieces (though that isn’t clear), using a hyperspectral imaging technique originally developed for medical use. The digized copies that will be available on the Internet will show all layers of the manuscript in at least some wavelengths, which means you’ll be able to see edits and corrections; and, of course, you can stare at it as long as your connection holds up.
This is something that’s been available to maybe 4 researchers in the last 20 years; and then for a few minutes at a time because it’s so fragile. But it’s the edits that will make the trouble; how do you deal with edits in the Word of God??
Murray
April 2, 2005 at 8:40 am
42In Carl Sagan’s book “Contact” the heroine is given a tidbit of knowledge from the aliens about something they don’t understand. Some where, either the millionth or billionth place of pi the numbers line up in an improbable way. It is taken as a possible sign that God is tipping his hand to scientists. (It’s been a number of years since I read the book).
Jerry
April 2, 2005 at 3:45 pm
43Yes, hedera…subtle yet scathing humor. At least my wife finds me witty!
Jerry
April 2, 2005 at 3:47 pm
44…or at least is kind enough to pretend so…
Jerry
April 2, 2005 at 3:52 pm
45and hedera…that is interesting. Maybe the biggest thing since the Huntington opened it’s microfilm copies of the Dead Sea Scrolls to all qualified researchers in ‘91. The witholding of research material from scholars is unconscionable.
hedera
April 2, 2005 at 5:05 pm
46In fact, Jerry, I find you pretty witty too.
On the Codex Sinaiticus: there’s a difference between keeping people away from a microfilm archive, and keeping them away for a 1,600 year old manuscript in extremely delicate condition. What the Huntingdon was doing was restricting access to scholarly resources; what the British Library has been doing is protecting an irreplaceable treasure. I just hope the process of digitizing it won’t damage it any further; I have horrifying mental images of putting it in a copy machine…
And I don’t know why, but Murray’s reference to the episode from “Contact”, which I haven’t read, has brought to mind one of my favorite short stories, Arthur Clarke’s “The Nine Billion Names of God”, about the Tibetan monks who install a computer for the purpose of printing out the 9 billion names of God… If you haven’t read it, I recommend it. The last line stays in your head for years.
Jerry
April 2, 2005 at 6:16 pm
47hedera - haven’t read that in years, but it was one of the first things I read after being propelled into SciFi (oops, sorry, ’speculative fiction’) by Famous Science Fiction Stories edited by Raymond J. Healy, pub. 1957, when I was 9! “One by one, the stars were going out,” or something close to that. It can, indeed, stay with you. For nearly half a century!
Of course I agree about making the original materials available, and your “xerox machine” image makes me shudder, but if the multi-spectral images are already recorded, they should have been available for years. It is delicious that this data will now be available to everyone. If you live by lies, the truth can be awfully embarrassing. Ask Scott Peterson when Laci bobbed up at his “alibi location!” Wonder what is there?
Jerry
April 2, 2005 at 6:25 pm
48Ha! Just found my copy, all yellow and nifty.
Correct the above to: “Overhead, without any fuss, the stars were going out.”
Jerry
April 2, 2005 at 6:40 pm
49And what imagination that in the future, in only three months, a Mark V computer could compute and print out on “electromatic typewriters” nine billion permutations of 26 letters in nine locations! well. OK, it’s only 5.42950368 billion, but close enough.
Pete in Van Diemen's Land
April 2, 2005 at 7:34 pm
50Isaac Asimov had a similar theme in “The Last Question”. Roughly put, it was ‘What happens when there is no more energy?’, and increasing entropy rears its ugly head in my young life for the first time. Of course, Uncle Isaac comes up with a lovely ending.
) every time there is a wonderful new advance in technology? Like the ‘editorial improvements’ in the Codex Sinaiticus, maybe we’re seeing the start of palimpsests… Oh, that’s a whole ‘nother can of worms, like looking into infinite reflections in parallel mirrors.
I recently read with sadness Hershel Shank’s book on the BS surrounding the Dead Sea Scrolls. It seems that people are stupid most of the time, even those lucky enough to have access to this level of training! What hope has Dubya got?
On the subject of making new images available, how many times can they take out the old codices and mummified remnants (e.g. Tut Ankh Amun (or ‘tootencarmen’
I’m sorry, I can’t seem to link Bolton to ‘The Name Of The Rose’…
Pete in Van Diemen's Land
April 2, 2005 at 7:36 pm
51Nor do I want to!
Pete in Van Diemen's Land
April 2, 2005 at 7:39 pm
52Oh no, I’ve got Jerry’s ailment! Post-Post-Post Huntingdon’s Disease? I find your humour with no problems, Jerry. Your wife can’t be wrong. Mine isn’t. EVER.
Jerry
April 2, 2005 at 8:26 pm
53She isn’t, Pete! Never! Right, hon? Yes ma’am.
And as far as mummified remnants go, what better time now that JPII has “gone to his father,” to explore some of those mummified Popes in St. Peter’s (it couldn’t be less dignified that being in glass cases on public view!) and in the tombs below using modern technology? CAT scans, NMRs, DNA analysis!! Maybe a National Geographic special? With an incisive take on why *Galileo’s middle finger* is still raised to the Vatican!
And I do have Huntingtons’ Korea, an odd ailment that makes one wonder why Kim Jong Il matters less than Saddam and if there are documents concerning this in a library in Southern California. See? It really screws up your perspective.
bolan
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