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		<title>by: dee</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/01/12/not-even-with-a-whimper/#comment-6152</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>From 9/12/2003, in a speech to the military at Fort Stewart, Georgia:

 And we have pursued the war on terror in Iraq. Our coalition &lt;b&gt;(sic)&lt;/b&gt; enforced the demands of the U.N. Security Council, in one of the swiftest and most humane&lt;b&gt;(sic)&lt;/b&gt;military campaigns in history. Because of our military, catastrophic weapons will no longer be in the hands of a reckless dictator. &lt;b&gt;not that they ever were, at least not here.  Now North Korea, that's another story.&lt;/b&gt;(Applause.) 

Because of our military, Middle Eastern countries no longer fear subversion and attack by Saddam Hussein. Because of our military, the torture chambers in Iraq are closed &lt;b&gt; except for the ones we're operating &lt;/b&gt; and people who speak their minds need not fear execution. Because of our military, the people of Iraq are free &lt;b&gt; or dead.&lt;/b&gt; (Applause.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From 9/12/2003, in a speech to the military at Fort Stewart, Georgia:</p>
<p> And we have pursued the war on terror in Iraq. Our coalition <b>(sic)</b> enforced the demands of the U.N. Security Council, in one of the swiftest and most humane<b>(sic)</b>military campaigns in history. Because of our military, catastrophic weapons will no longer be in the hands of a reckless dictator. <b>not that they ever were, at least not here.  Now North Korea, that&#8217;s another story.</b>(Applause.) </p>
<p>Because of our military, Middle Eastern countries no longer fear subversion and attack by Saddam Hussein. Because of our military, the torture chambers in Iraq are closed <b> except for the ones we&#8217;re operating </b> and people who speak their minds need not fear execution. Because of our military, the people of Iraq are free <b> or dead.</b> (Applause.)
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		<title>by: Matt</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/01/12/not-even-with-a-whimper/#comment-6153</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Does this mean that this administration is riddled with incompetence or do you think that they knew what they were doing all along?  Or is there a third choice that I'm just not seeing?  If it is incompetence, has there ever be such rampent incompetence that has been so consistently rewarded?  Do you think that now Bush might be able to think of a mistake he has made?

Number of people fired at CBS for airing a story based on false information: 4
Number of people fired from the Bush administration for going to war where over 1200 Americans and countless Iraqis have died based on false information: 0 (unless you count Chalabi--then 1).
Am I making a bigger deal out of this than it is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this mean that this administration is riddled with incompetence or do you think that they knew what they were doing all along?  Or is there a third choice that I&#8217;m just not seeing?  If it is incompetence, has there ever be such rampent incompetence that has been so consistently rewarded?  Do you think that now Bush might be able to think of a mistake he has made?</p>
<p>Number of people fired at CBS for airing a story based on false information: 4<br />
Number of people fired from the Bush administration for going to war where over 1200 Americans and countless Iraqis have died based on false information: 0 (unless you count Chalabi&#8211;then 1).<br />
Am I making a bigger deal out of this than it is?
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		<title>by: Don</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/01/12/not-even-with-a-whimper/#comment-6154</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am certain that the minions of the Department of Homeland Newspeak flocked into their offices to make their adjusting entries this morning.

Somehow I doubt that your suggestions worked their way into the mix, though, Adam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am certain that the minions of the Department of Homeland Newspeak flocked into their offices to make their adjusting entries this morning.</p>
<p>Somehow I doubt that your suggestions worked their way into the mix, though, Adam.
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		<title>by: Murray</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/01/12/not-even-with-a-whimper/#comment-6155</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Alas, 49% of americans already know, and the rest don't give a shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alas, 49% of americans already know, and the rest don&#8217;t give a shit.
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		<title>by: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/01/12/not-even-with-a-whimper/#comment-6156</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Matt, it could be that the administration is both incompetent AND deceitful.  On NPR tonight, a White House spokesman said that the President was comfortable with the decisions that he had made and that he had already established a committee to study how the free world had been mislead by intelligence foul-ups.

First off, he could start by looking in a mirror.  Second, there were no foul-ups.  The Bush league deliberately either altered or ignored the facts to justify what they wanted to do.  The CIA could have said that Hussein had converted his weapons systems to gardening tools and the admin would have changed it to say that Saddam was farming out weapons.  W's conscience is clean but only because to have one requires a soul.  The ends justified the means, and by ends I mean assholes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, it could be that the administration is both incompetent AND deceitful.  On NPR tonight, a White House spokesman said that the President was comfortable with the decisions that he had made and that he had already established a committee to study how the free world had been mislead by intelligence foul-ups.</p>
<p>First off, he could start by looking in a mirror.  Second, there were no foul-ups.  The Bush league deliberately either altered or ignored the facts to justify what they wanted to do.  The CIA could have said that Hussein had converted his weapons systems to gardening tools and the admin would have changed it to say that Saddam was farming out weapons.  W&#8217;s conscience is clean but only because to have one requires a soul.  The ends justified the means, and by ends I mean assholes.
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		<title>by: tess</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/01/12/not-even-with-a-whimper/#comment-6157</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>. . . and the head-pounding continues.

You know, I still hear from people in my neck of the woods about how we HAD to go into Iraq because of 9-11.  I know it's nowhere near what Murray has to put with, but for a college town it makes me want to pound some people's faces in when I hear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . . and the head-pounding continues.</p>
<p>You know, I still hear from people in my neck of the woods about how we HAD to go into Iraq because of 9-11.  I know it&#8217;s nowhere near what Murray has to put with, but for a college town it makes me want to pound some people&#8217;s faces in when I hear it.
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		<title>by: Rusty</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sept. 12, 2002 address to the UN.

"The conduct of the Iraqi regime is a threat to the authority of the United Nations, and a threat to &lt;b&gt; oil profits.  NO!&lt;/b&gt;  peace. Iraq has answered a decade of U.N. demands with a decade of defiance &lt;b&gt;that really wasn't defiant at all.  More like a grudging teenager.  Heh, heh.  Those twins really are somethin'.&lt;/b&gt; All the world now faces a &lt;b&gt;standardized&lt;/b&gt; test &lt;b&gt;foisted on you by the "No nation left behind" act&lt;/b&gt;, and the United Nations a (sic) difficult and defining moment. &lt;b&gt;Goddammit, can't my speechifiers even get it right in print?  Oh, sorry.  Where was I?&lt;/b&gt;  Are Security Council resolutions to be honored and enforced, or cast aside without consequence &lt;b&gt; like that one I made over New Year's to stop eating pretzels&lt;/b&gt;? Will the United Nations serve the purpose of its founding, or will it be irrelevant &lt;b&gt;like Dade county&lt;/b&gt;?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sept. 12, 2002 address to the UN.</p>
<p>&#8220;The conduct of the Iraqi regime is a threat to the authority of the United Nations, and a threat to <b> oil profits.  NO!</b>  peace. Iraq has answered a decade of U.N. demands with a decade of defiance <b>that really wasn&#8217;t defiant at all.  More like a grudging teenager.  Heh, heh.  Those twins really are somethin&#8217;.</b> All the world now faces a <b>standardized</b> test <b>foisted on you by the &#8220;No nation left behind&#8221; act</b>, and the United Nations a (sic) difficult and defining moment. <b>Goddammit, can&#8217;t my speechifiers even get it right in print?  Oh, sorry.  Where was I?</b>  Are Security Council resolutions to be honored and enforced, or cast aside without consequence <b> like that one I made over New Year&#8217;s to stop eating pretzels</b>? Will the United Nations serve the purpose of its founding, or will it be irrelevant <b>like Dade county</b>?&#8221;
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		<title>by: Allison in Santa Cruz</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/01/12/not-even-with-a-whimper/#comment-6159</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I wonder what *now* is our pretense for having invaded a sovereign nation?  Saddam once thought about obtaining or making WMD, and because he had that thought we had to take him out?

I continue to be both appalled and amazed at Bush's arrogance.  He must be inhuman.  What kind of psychological defect does it take to be so lacking in human decency that the man cannot admit that he made a mistake?   And what the hell is wrong with his so-called advisors (toadies, really) who fall all over themselves to tell Bush what he wants to know?  Are there really that many defective people, and are they really running our country?

Someone wake me up, please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what *now* is our pretense for having invaded a sovereign nation?  Saddam once thought about obtaining or making WMD, and because he had that thought we had to take him out?</p>
<p>I continue to be both appalled and amazed at Bush&#8217;s arrogance.  He must be inhuman.  What kind of psychological defect does it take to be so lacking in human decency that the man cannot admit that he made a mistake?   And what the hell is wrong with his so-called advisors (toadies, really) who fall all over themselves to tell Bush what he wants to know?  Are there really that many defective people, and are they really running our country?</p>
<p>Someone wake me up, please!
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		<title>by: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/01/12/not-even-with-a-whimper/#comment-6160</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>That's it!  A new nickname for W!  "Scott Farkis!"  That's the name of the bully in "A Christmas Story" with the little toady and yellow teeth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it!  A new nickname for W!  &#8220;Scott Farkis!&#8221;  That&#8217;s the name of the bully in &#8220;A Christmas Story&#8221; with the little toady and yellow teeth.
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		<title>by: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://fanaticalapathy.com/2005/01/12/not-even-with-a-whimper/#comment-6161</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;White House spokesman Scott McClellan said that for the Iraq Survey Group, which was leading the search for nuclear, biological and chemical weapons, "a lot of their mission is focused elsewhere now."&lt;/i&gt; Now even that sniveling semi-admission came only after the Washington Post broke the story that they had called off the seach &lt;b&gt;before Christmas&lt;/b&gt;! 

But what the sexual intercourse is that supposed to mean? How can a missson which is over, which has been discontinued, which has kicked the bucket, shuffled off this mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile, is an ex-mission, now be focused elsewhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>White House spokesman Scott McClellan said that for the Iraq Survey Group, which was leading the search for nuclear, biological and chemical weapons, &#8220;a lot of their mission is focused elsewhere now.&#8221;</i> Now even that sniveling semi-admission came only after the Washington Post broke the story that they had called off the seach <b>before Christmas</b>! </p>
<p>But what the sexual intercourse is that supposed to mean? How can a missson which is over, which has been discontinued, which has kicked the bucket, shuffled off this mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin&#8217; choir invisibile, is an ex-mission, now be focused elsewhere?
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