Comments on: God Sheds His Grace http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/ America's favorite blog Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:39:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Linkmeister http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5548 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5548 While digging around for an adjunct to my thoughts today I found <a href="http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/signers/index.htm">this</a>, which allows you to learn just what happened to those revolutionaries <i>post-Revolution</i>. Enlightening. While digging around for an adjunct to my thoughts today I found this, which allows you to learn just what happened to those revolutionaries post-Revolution. Enlightening.

]]> by: Murray http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5549 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5549 Britain was the world's superpower of the time, and the colonies were at best what we would call a 3rd world power. The signers of the Declaration knew that if they failed to subdue this colossus their names were on the document and George III would see them all hang and strip their families of their lands. Sort of a contrast to the chicken hawks running the show now. The framers traded their security for individual freedoms, this administration has traded our freedoms for what they claim is security. Oh well, happy 4th, it's still the greatest country on earth. So far. Britain was the world’s superpower of the time, and the colonies were at best what we would call a 3rd world power. The signers of the Declaration knew that if they failed to subdue this colossus their names were on the document and George III would see them all hang and strip their families of their lands.

Sort of a contrast to the chicken hawks running the show now.

The framers traded their security for individual freedoms, this administration has traded our freedoms for what they claim is security.

Oh well, happy 4th, it’s still the greatest country on earth. So far.

]]> by: Elayne Riggs http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5550 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5550 Yay Adam! Brilliant as always! Yay Adam! Brilliant as always!

]]> by: historyenne http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5551 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5551 I agree with everything you said, Adam, except for one small point: Jefferson's slave-related sex scandal didn't begin until some years after the declaration was written. It was an issue during his presidency, and would certainly have ruined him today. Happy independence day, everyone! I agree with everything you said, Adam, except for one small point: Jefferson’s slave-related sex scandal didn’t begin until some years after the declaration was written. It was an issue during his presidency, and would certainly have ruined him today.

Happy independence day, everyone!

]]> by: Dee http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5552 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5552 Oh heck I still cry at the scene in "Moscow on the Hudson" when the immigrants in the cafe take turns reciting the first paragraph of the Declaration. Marvelous words, indeed. Hard to believe that it was put together by a committee. The men who wrote it were inspired, and the economy and power of the language are testament to their intelligence and vision. And while we may bemoan the lack of such intelligence and vision today, I think we can blame it on one thing -- air conditioning. Just think of how brief meetings and how short documents would be if these meetings were conducted and these documents were produced in sweltering board rooms and offices. You can get a lot more done when you just want to get the hell out of there and grab a cold one. Which I will do, toasting Tom and John and Ben and all of 'em. Nicely done, boys. Oh heck I still cry at the scene in “Moscow on the Hudson” when the immigrants in the cafe take turns reciting the first paragraph of the Declaration. Marvelous words, indeed. Hard to believe that it was put together by a committee.

The men who wrote it were inspired, and the economy and power of the language are testament to their intelligence and vision. And while we may bemoan the lack of such intelligence and vision today, I think we can blame it on one thing — air conditioning. Just think of how brief meetings and how short documents would be if these meetings were conducted and these documents were produced in sweltering board rooms and offices. You can get a lot more done when you just want to get the hell out of there and grab a cold one.

Which I will do, toasting Tom and John and Ben and all of ‘em. Nicely done, boys.

]]> by: tatonka http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5553 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5553 I thought it was beta tested by the Native Americans. Happy birthday USA! I thought it was beta tested by the Native Americans.

Happy birthday USA!

]]> by: t.a. http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5554 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5554 people bemoan the lawyers and the laws, but look at the alternatives around the world. we've had no violent coups, just some legalistic ones. we started with a very limited democracy, and it's grown -- slowly, yes, but relentlessly. it hurts to watch the present pace and condition of our country, but there are enough of us working for change, enough of us who care, that i continue to believe we will get better and do better. unless we poison every thing on the planet or blow the fucker up. no guarantees, but we aren't doing that bad. not good enough, but hey, we're only human. (read walt kelly for a good viewpoint.) people bemoan the lawyers and the laws, but look at the alternatives around the world. we’ve had no violent coups, just some legalistic ones. we started with a very limited democracy, and it’s grown — slowly, yes, but relentlessly. it hurts to watch the present pace and condition of our country, but there are enough of us working for change, enough of us who care, that i continue to believe we will get better and do better.

unless we poison every thing on the planet or blow the fucker up. no guarantees, but we aren’t doing that bad. not good enough, but hey, we’re only human. (read walt kelly for a good viewpoint.)

]]> by: -=e=- http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5555 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5555 Oh! Oh! Don't get me STARTED on those traitorous "King George haters"! Wasn't there at least one decent person there to remind them of the slogan: "The Colonies: Love it or Leave it!"? And the Boston Tea Party? That was terrorism. Simple and plain.... GITMO FOR ALL OF THEM, I SAY!!! heh heh... Happy Birthday, U.S.A! Oh! Oh! Don’t get me STARTED on those traitorous “King George haters”! Wasn’t there at least one decent person there to remind them of the slogan: “The Colonies: Love it or Leave it!”? And the Boston Tea Party? That was terrorism. Simple and plain…. GITMO FOR ALL OF THEM, I SAY!!!

heh heh… Happy Birthday, U.S.A!

]]> by: lovable liberal http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5556 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5556 Can you imagine any of the current bunco artists pledging their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honour? And meaning it? Can you imagine any of the current bunco artists pledging their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honour? And meaning it?

]]> by: tess http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5557 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/07/04/god-sheds-his-grace/#comment-5557 wait, i thought the hot coffee scandal was reasonably legit. the woman suffered 3rd degree burns on her lap because mcDonald's consistently heated the coffee well above what was considered normal, and in fact several people had complained before the lawsuit was ever brought up. then again, this was from npr, and we all know that we can't trust npr. wait, i thought the hot coffee scandal was reasonably legit. the woman suffered 3rd degree burns on her lap because mcDonald’s consistently heated the coffee well above what was considered normal, and in fact several people had complained before the lawsuit was ever brought up.

then again, this was from npr, and we all know that we can’t trust npr.

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