LOS ANGELES - A group opposing Michael Moore’s documentary “Fahrenheit 9/11″ is urging U.S. movie theaters not to screen the film, which is set to open June 25.
California-based Move America Forward, which says its goal is “supporting America’s war on terrorism,” has launched an electronic campaign, both via e-mail and through its Web site, encouraging theaters not to play Moore’s film, which is critical of the war in Iraq.
“Michael Moore has the right to free speech,” said MAF Chairman Howard Kaloogian, according to Variety. “But so do millions of Americans who find his anti-military propaganda and attacks on our troops offensive.”
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I found this approach fascinating, so I contacted Move America Forward. Their Assistant Director, Tom Pincer, was nice enough to answer some of my questions via Instant Messaging…
FELBER: Mr. Pincer, thanks for taking the time to talk.
PINCER: No problem. Always happy to be fabricated by a member of the press.
FELBER: Okay. Let’s cut to the chase: Your attempts to get every theater in America to refrain from showing Michael Moore’s film is not censorship.
PINCER: No. We’re exercising our free speech.
FELBER: And the content of your free speech is “Censor Michael Moore.”
PINCER: Possibly.
FELBER: “Possibly?”
PINCER: If we succeed in preventing the screening of “Fahrenheit 911″ in American theaters, is that censorship -
FELBER: Yes.
PINCER: - stay with me here - is that censorship, or is that every theater in America exercising their right to free speech? Huh? See? Gotcha there, don’t I?
FELBER: No, I don’t think so. You’re trying to interfere with someone else’s speech -
PINCER: - by speaking. Freely. A lot.
FELBER: Right, but by trying to influence the distributers and purveyors of a piece of speech, you’re XXXX XXXXX in such a way that XXX XXXX XXXXXX XXX looks like XXXXXXXXXX.
PINCER: I don’t agree.
FELBER: Wait, what did you just do up there?
PINCER: Nothing.
FELBER: Yes, yes you did. Several key words up there have been replaced by X’s.
PINCER: Look, we’re speaking, you and me. At the same time, I’m exercising my right to free speech over the internet. And some of that speech just so happens to be some….
FELBER: …pieces of computer code.
PINCER: Maybe…
FELBER: But that actually interferes with my speech. Stop it!
PINCER: What, are you trying to censor me?
FELBER: No, I’m trying to stop you from censoring me!
PINCER: Well, as you can see, it’s a pretty complex issue.
FELBER: It’s not complex. It’s very simple. Free speech is the inalienable right of every American. What your approach does is XXXXXXX that XXXXXX XX XXX XXXX XXX intimidate the XXXXXX and XXXX XXXXXXXXXX XX’X XXX - STOP DOING THAT!
PINCER: What? We’re just talking here.
FELBER: But some of your “talking” is XXXXXX XXXX XX XX XXXXXX!
PINCER: Oh, so now you’re saying that what I type on my computer isn’t protected by the First Amendment? Fascist.
FELBER: No, I just XXX XXXXX XXX XXXXXX XX X XXXXX.
PINCER: Great, so you’re starting to see the logic of my viewpoint.
FELBER: Wait a minute - I never XXXX XXXX X XXXX XXX XX XXXXXXXX!
PINCER: Thank you. You’re right - “Move America Forward” is indeed an exciting organization that deserves widespread public support.
FELBER: XXX XXXX XXX XX XXXX XXXXXXX XXXX, you XXXXXXX!!!!!
PINCER: What, the web address? Certainly. It’s http://www.moveamericaforward.org/.
FELBER: You can’t XX XXXX XX XX, XXX XXX XXXX XX XXXXX son of X XXXXX!
PINCER: Much obliged. It was nice talking to you, too.
FELBER: X XXXX XXX XX XXXXXX XXX!!
PINCER: Thank you. Bye.
FELBER: XXXXXX XXX XXX XXXX!!!!!!





33 comments
Mary
June 15, 2004 at 1:22 pm
1Never fear. The People’s Repuiblic of Ann Arbor will never bow to preassure from “Move America Forward”. Moore is a local hero in these here parts
Besides, XXXXXXX he XXXXXXX so that XXXXXXXXX…..
NOW WAIT A GALL DARN MINUTE!!!!!!
Murray
June 15, 2004 at 1:30 pm
2It all makes perfect sense here in Bizzaro land.
Liberals want to present both sides so that people can make up their minds
Conservatives know that there is only one right position, so why bother to give the wrong one.
Don
June 15, 2004 at 2:06 pm
3XX’XX XXXX XXXXXXX XXX XXXX XX XXXXXXXXXX, XXX!
BJ
June 15, 2004 at 2:29 pm
4I agree wholeheartedly with the last post.
Kip W
June 15, 2004 at 2:30 pm
5Nitpick: the second letter, fourth word, should be X.
gtc
June 15, 2004 at 2:41 pm
6I found the link to moveamericaforward.org a handy access point to write to the theatres which have already decided to show the Michael Moore film, to say thank you.
tim
June 15, 2004 at 2:45 pm
7Where was Move America Forward when “Gigli” came out?
lisa*
June 15, 2004 at 3:07 pm
8gtc XXXXXXX Brilliant!
tatonka
June 15, 2004 at 3:25 pm
9gtc - great idea! thanks!
Ann
June 15, 2004 at 3:49 pm
10Of course, the Constitution only deals with censorship by the government. We’re all free to urge our local businesses to show or not show, sell or not sell, as we prefer. That’s the free market. Picketing and boycotting aren’t censorship.
historyenne
June 15, 2004 at 4:07 pm
11Ann,
Picketing and boycotting aren’t censorship, but when a small group of people interferes with the rights of others–in this case, our right to choose whether or not to see this film–then that is censorship. Let people picket, and let them boycott, but let them also leave the rest of us our right to choose not to boycott.
That is freedom of speech.
adam
June 15, 2004 at 4:32 pm
12Ann -
I definitely wasn’t alleging that there’s anything illegal about Move America Forward’s campaign. And of course “picketing and boycotting” aren’t censorship.
Trying to pressure every movie theater in the country not to show Moore’s movie IS a call for for censorship, however.
Here’s a bit from their site:
So why on earth are ANY movie theaters showing this film? “Fahrenheit 9/11” should be shown as a recruiting video for Al-Qaeda, not in our movie theaters.
Please join us in telling the movie theater companies below your opinion as it relates to their attempt to profit from the showing of “Fahrenheit 9/11.”
Since we are the customers of the American movie theatres it is important for us to speak up loudly and tell the industry executives that we don’t want this misleading and grotesque movie being shown at our local cinema.
We need these executives to be overwhelmed with letters, phone calls and FAXes… in addition to emails.
What follows is the phone numbers and email addresses for every theater and chain that plans to show the film. Yes, it’s legal, I’d never say otherwise. But it’s a call for censorship, and it’s objectionable.
Wealthy Texas Oil Man
June 15, 2004 at 4:58 pm
13I have invested a great deal of money in the Bush campaign, and I will continue to do so.
Frankly, I hate to see the greatest President in US history, next to Ronald and George Sr., get trounced by that self-agrandising anti-American, Michael Moore.
Please understand that the current administration has re-defined the term ‘patriotism’.
Learn the new definition and get with the program or be left behind.
Wealthy Texas Oil Man
June 15, 2004 at 5:00 pm
14aggrandising
aaron
June 15, 2004 at 5:34 pm
15These people are only for “Free Speech” as long as the “speech” in question happens to be saying “exactly what they believe.”
Cara
June 15, 2004 at 5:40 pm
16Left behind? Can Jenkins and Lehaye use the internet? I would’ve thought it beyond their ken.
Or did Wealthy Texas Oil Man just threaten to get all Rapture on us?
(Wealthy Texas Oil Man who just commented, not the one who sleeps in the White House.)
(Unless they’re the same person, in which case we’re in bigger trouble than I thought.)
Bob
June 15, 2004 at 5:55 pm
17You want to be careful, there, Wealthy Texas guy. You push your tongue too far into your cheek, and you’ll need a surgeon to get it back out.
kaizerin
June 15, 2004 at 10:06 pm
18And, if you’re going to masqerade as an American, it helps to spell the “-ising” suffix with a zed. Er, zee.
Bryan
June 15, 2004 at 11:04 pm
19Let’s see, the people who have screened Heaven’s Gate, Ishtar and Godzilla versus King Kong are going to forgo the profits because PR flacks hired by politicians that the media companies own ask them to.
Obviously a marketing move by theater operators to maximize profits for the film. They have to make up ground for Home on the Range.
The film reviewer for Faux News thought people should see it, and it was patriotic. I believe we are currently in a zone of cogitative dissonance.
poorwarren
June 16, 2004 at 12:37 am
20Grotesque movie? What they are talking about are images of carnage wrought in our name that have already been seen by the rest of the world. It’s about time we see “our tax dollars at work”. This movie should be required viewing for all Americans. If you can’t deal with watching it, why are you paying for it?
Sorry for the belligerent tone, but I’ve had it with conservative wimps that don’t want to be exposed to the realities of war.
Matt
June 16, 2004 at 12:48 am
21This reminds me vividly of a chat I had with a classmate in college in 1992 or thereabouts (I won’t name the university, but as a hint, both George Bush and John Kerry attended it). I’d learned that he belonged to the hard-right party of the political union, the one that occasionally ran buses down to NY for Rush Limbaugh tapings. We had a few conversations about our political differences, which we could handle as long as we didn’t take it too seriously.
But one thing he said really stuck with me, and that was: “If I disagree with someone’s opinions, I’ll do everything I can to prevent them from saying it.” I was totally dumbstruck. Since then, of course, I’ve thought of any number of interesting and witty comebacks (”So you don’t think your ideas can hold up on the merits, huh? Do ya? Scared of a little debate, are ya? Huh?”), which I should probably write down so if anyone ever invents a time machine I can go back and read them all to him. Of course he would probably just start blathering about how the left was dominating the campus and the press.
…On that last note, I also remember noticing after a while that lots of people read the effectively-written right-wing campus publications, which were constantly shrieking about how the right was being drowned out, while the very few pathetically underfunded left-wing publications (dry, intellectual, footnote-heavy) were read by maybe five or six people. The point being — Adam, thanks for doing your bit in going for the jugular.
Mojo
June 16, 2004 at 12:58 am
22My favorite part of their web site is the link to sign up for e-mail about “National Support the War on Terror Day” (9/11/04) to receive “more information on this important event you won’t want to miss!” It’s a good thing this public-spirited organization is willing to do this or I’d have no way of knowing that there was any relationship between September 11th and terrorism! (Maybe somebody should sign Shrub up so he won’t forget about terrorism again when he notices Iran or North Korea or some other shiny object.)
Jerry
June 16, 2004 at 4:04 am
23I think atc had a great idea, so here (with a tip of the hatlo hat to MAF for the research) is their list of email addresses, comma delimited, just the way your email’s BCC line likes ‘em! Why blind carbons? Shucks, it just looks neater to the recipient, of course! Copy and paste away, me hearties, and put a nice thank you to the first batch, and a polite request to let us see the film to the second:
National Chains & Local Theaters,Who Are Planning to Show “Fahrenheit 9/11”
brian_blatchley@loewscpx.com,michael_norris@loewscpx.com,kerry_moots@l oewscpx.com,John_mccauley@loewscpx.com,john_walker@loewscpx.com,maura_ Campbell@loewscpx.com,lorim@landmarktheatres.com,MattL@landmarktheatre s.com,dianea@landmarktheatres.com,hughw@landmarktheatres.com,magnolia@ landmarktheatres.com,comments@landmarktheatres.com,info@little-theatre .com,marketing@little-theatre.com,info@drexel.net,webmaster@drexel.net ,Cameranet@aol.com,info@rialtoarts.com,info@rialtocinemas.com,film@sa voytheater.com
National Chains Who Have Yet To Decide,Whether They Will Show “Fahrenheit 9/11”
dgurin@regalcinemas.com,mcampbell@regalcinemas.com,amiles@regalcinemas .com,gdunn@regalcinemas.com,pbrandow@regalcinemas.com,barry.brown@rega lcinemas.com,rwinograd@regalcinemedia.com,robbya@regalcinemas.com,kevi nk@regalcinemas.com,ddelaria@regalcinemas.com,gslayton@amctheatres.com ,gthyer@amctheatres.com,vdaniels@amctheatres.com,mcook@amctheatres.co m,Mmcdonald@amctheatres.com,Jmcdonald@amctheatres.com,Psingleton@amcth eatres.com,Jbeynon@amctheatres.com,Kconnor@amctheatres.com,fred@carmik e.com,philip@carmike.com,film@carmike.com,do07@carmike.com,do12@carmik e.com,do14@carmike.com,Jacque_clark@centurytheatres.com,Chris_OKelley@ CenturyTheatres.com,Nancy_Klasky@centurytheatres.com,David_shesgreen@c enturytheatres.com,Victor_Castillo@centurytheatres.com,srodriguez@mann theatres.com,jhebert@manntheatres.com,info@manntheatres.com,comments@m anntheatres.com,rjansson@manntheatres.com,jhanson@national-amusements. com,mdixon@national-amusements.com,operations@national-amusements.com, jwelman@crowntheatres.com,hcleveland@crowntheatres.com,cdugger@crownth eatres.com,zcole@crowntheatres.com,bmcmannis@gqti.com,mjohnson@gqti.co m,Goodrich@gqti.com,dkerasotes@kerasotes.com,tjohnson@kerasotes.com,kj ohnson@kerasotes.com,joanvoelzke@marcuscorp.com,stevemarcus@marcuscorp .com,bruceolson@marcuscorp.com,ghill@wallacetheaters.com,marketing@wal lacetheaters.com,service@wallacetheaters.com,astone@consolidatedth.com ,customerservice@consolidatedth.com,ctortolano@pacifictheatres.com,cd ougher@clearcin.com,wsalisch@clearcin.com,dlewis1@clearcin.com
Murray
June 16, 2004 at 9:50 am
24Matt,
“If I disagree with someone’s opinions, I’ll do everything I can to prevent them from saying it.”
The right has always done this. Look at O’Riely, and when was the last time Limbaugh took a call from Mario Cuomo on the air.
A true master at stopping debate was William F. Buckley. His extremely deep knowledge of obscure words, around which he could build his sentences, would force someone debating him to either shut up or admit that they didn’t know what Buckley was talking about. It was a pure case of using the language to intimidate the opponent. It always struck me that if he were confident of his actual argument; he wouldn’t have to play dirty. It was a shame that no one had the balls to call him on it.
Mad magazine once described the difference between a liberal and conservative this way.
A liberal secretly wishes that Buckley was on his side and a conservative agrees with everything Buckley says but has no idea what he is talking about.
Susie
June 16, 2004 at 11:27 am
25Adam, that’s some funny shXt!
Laura
June 16, 2004 at 5:14 pm
26A letter to MoveAmerica Forward and other groups or individuals who oppose the film Fahernheit 9/11: If you don’t like the premise of the film simply decide not to see it. Easy as that. As for your efforts to prevent theaters from showing the film: In a society like the US where we hold the freedom to speak very dear, why are you so afraid of this film?
skytwo
June 16, 2004 at 7:37 pm
27Jeez, I can’t imagine how anyone could suspect them of being non-partisan after looking at the About Us page.
Well, I’m off to have some dinner. I’m eating healthy these days, you know. Tonight I’ll be having a Bush salad with Reagan dressing. Mmmmmm….. a whole day’s worth of vegetables if you supersize it.
Johnnyboy
June 17, 2004 at 11:59 am
28Add some ketchup to your salad and you’ve eaten enough vegetables for a week !
Matt
June 18, 2004 at 1:54 am
29Murray, no argument with what you say. I’ve been sitting here for a few minutes thinking about the Reagan Administration and what I know about the Nixon Administration and generally trying to figure out whether I really think it’s gotten worse in recent years. It sure feels as if the total disregard for truth has reached new depths — a good example is this nonsense about connections between Al Qaeda and Hussein, which Cheney is still incredibly trying to sell. But then I think about Watergate and Iran-Contra and ketchup and trees that cause pollution and I wonder if it’s always been the same.
(It’s interesting that you bring up William F. Buckley — he was the main force, financially at least, behind one of the conservative college magazines I was talking about, although it wasn’t a particularly effective one: it tended to be more dry and intellectual, like the liberal publications. Taking after Buckley, I suppose. There were two conservative parties on campus, one which seemed to care about actually being right, and one which was out for blood. Guess we know who won that battle on the national stage.)
Tim
June 18, 2004 at 3:31 pm
30I’m curious:
Besides the obvious difference of one being pro and one being con, how does “Move America Forward”’s letter writing campaign differ from, say, a letter writing campaign to keep “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” or “Star Trek” on the air? If you insist that the former is a group attempting to interfere with the exercising of other’s rights, mustn’t you also conclude that the latter is a group attempting to interfere with the rights and responsibilities of programming executives?
I admire and enjoy Adam (particularly as a near-regular on NPR’s WWDTM!) but I would have to disagree. In my mind, censorship must be enacted by someone in authority over someone subject to that authority. (Of course, Merriam-Webster doesn’t agree with me, but heck, it’s not the first time!)
bellatrys
June 18, 2004 at 8:09 pm
31Um, no, there’s a big difference between the Desperate Trekkie letter campaign and the Move, You Stupid ShXts!!! campaign. Even the Mass Tabasco Mailing of the Roswellians wasn’t like the anti 9/11 campaign.
You see, a Desperate Fan Plea is an attempt to prove to a company that they *will* make money, despite the solemn warnings of their talking heads and the polls, that there are really enough real people out there who watch the show and buy stuff because of it to make it worth their while, and although yes we are crazy enough to write desperate letters explaining how we will die if you cancel Buffy and we see no more Spike Cheekbones™ or to mail in little bottles of Tabasco, it’s really an appeal to the pocketbooks. It’s kind of like a fundraising drive in reverse.
And those who organize such pleas are very insistent (not always obeyed, but the spirit is clear) that they not be abusive and derisve to those stupid SOBs who are cancelling Farscape and obviously have no souls and no poetry or romance and care only for cold hard cash - but still we have to respect their alien customs and speak to them in their language, even if it’s enough to send a normal person into Amok Time…
Move America Forward is a phoney sham
June 19, 2004 at 11:06 am
32‘Move America Forward’ is nothing more than a front for a GOP-linked public relations firm, Russo Marsh and Rogers. Yet for some inexplicable reason, the fact that RM+R set up MAF is not mentioned anywhere on the MAF website! I can’t imagine why…
See The truth about Move America Forward
or alternatively,
More useful info about Move America Forward
Bill S
June 23, 2004 at 5:48 pm
33I am amused.