Comments on: Beyond “Ooops” http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/ America's favorite blog Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:50:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Bob http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4944 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4944 Setting the lefty/righty dichotomy aside for the moment, we as a nation hold two diametrically opposed views about how to deal with a serious problem: 1) Full disclosure, punishment of the guilty (and not just a few scapegoats), sunshine is the best disinfectant, etc. 2) Stonewall. We are currently being led, if that's the word, by proponents of approach (2). You can't argue with the results, particularly since no one's listening. Setting the lefty/righty dichotomy aside for the moment, we as a nation hold two diametrically opposed views about how to deal with a serious problem:

1) Full disclosure, punishment of the guilty (and not just a few scapegoats), sunshine is the best disinfectant, etc.

2) Stonewall.

We are currently being led, if that’s the word, by proponents of approach (2). You can’t argue with the results, particularly since no one’s listening.

]]> by: tatonka http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4945 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4945 Number 1) with high intensity UV. Number 1) with high intensity UV.

]]> by: littlebit http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4946 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4946 I want to turn away, turn off the radio. But we have to know, Step 1. High intensity UV knowledge administration to the culpable would be the cruelest of all and the most effective and wise. Nonetheless, they're not likely to be the ones blinded by the light. I want to turn away, turn off the radio. But we have to know, Step 1. High intensity UV knowledge administration to the culpable would be the cruelest of all and the most effective and wise. Nonetheless, they’re not likely to be the ones blinded by the light.

]]> by: Murray http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4947 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4947 Adam, this too shall be spun. Adam, this too shall be spun.

]]> by: tess http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4948 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4948 instead of just plain ol' sunlight or uv lamps, i'm in favor of cleaning this all out the old fashioned way -- jaeggermeister and a match. instead of just plain ol’ sunlight or uv lamps, i’m in favor of cleaning this all out the old fashioned way — jaeggermeister and a match.

]]> by: Steve http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4949 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4949 And now it looks like Chalabi is an Iranian double agent. We've been snookered and snookered good. And now it looks like Chalabi is an Iranian double agent. We’ve been snookered and snookered good.

]]> by: Anonymous http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4950 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4950 > And now it looks like Chalabi is an Iranian double agent. We've been snookered and snookered good. "Fool me once, shame ... shame on ... you." Long, uncomfortable pause. "Fool me — can't get fooled again!" -- GW > And now it looks like Chalabi is an Iranian double agent. We’ve been snookered and snookered good.

“Fool me once, shame … shame on … you.” Long, uncomfortable pause. “Fool me — can’t get fooled again!”
– GW

]]> by: craig http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4951 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4951 Operation Enduring Oops Adam, I think you've named W's memoir. Operation Enduring Oops

Adam, I think you’ve named W’s memoir.

]]> by: Fishmael http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4952 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4952 "Specially-trained black ops forces to infiltrate Iraqi organizations ...". It's my understanding that one of the initial problems was that there were very few people in the U.S. government (let alone the military) that could speak Iraqi. Further, the few translaters that there were around were often gay (something about the "love of language"?), and were "let go". However, as Adam says, it's still more likely that Bush convincingly apologizing. As to torturing an American, how about repeated loud messages that "there are other people in the world besides Americans", or "France is number one"? “Specially-trained black ops forces to infiltrate Iraqi organizations …”. It’s my understanding that one of the initial problems was that there were very few people in the U.S. government (let alone the military) that could speak Iraqi. Further, the few translaters that there were around were often gay (something about the “love of language”?), and were “let go”. However, as Adam says, it’s still more likely that Bush convincingly apologizing.

As to torturing an American, how about repeated loud messages that “there are other people in the world besides Americans”, or “France is number one”?

]]> by: tim http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4953 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/21/beyond-ooops/#comment-4953 Bush's new campaign slogan: "We're going to punish the American military for the Abu Ghraib abuses by giving them four more years of Rumsfeld!" Bush’s new campaign slogan:

“We’re going to punish the American military for the Abu Ghraib abuses by giving them four more years of Rumsfeld!”

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