Comments on: Fractals Accomplished http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/ America's favorite blog Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:36:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Jack K. http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4766 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4766 ...<i>people are no longer disappearing into political prisons, torture chambers, and mass graves</i>... ...hey, one out of three's not that bad. Gee Dub is supposed to be a baseball guy at heart, so he would know that a .333 batting average is a darned fine number... …people are no longer disappearing into political prisons, torture chambers, and mass graves…

…hey, one out of three’s not that bad. Gee Dub is supposed to be a baseball guy at heart, so he would know that a .333 batting average is a darned fine number…

]]> by: Anne http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4767 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4767 GW realized halfway into his "old saying" that, if he continued, satirists and critics would have "Shame on me" captured forever on videotape. Such a loss! GW realized halfway into his “old saying” that, if he continued, satirists and critics would have “Shame on me” captured forever on videotape. Such a loss!

]]> by: r http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4768 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4768 Man, I wish I'd come up with the 'fractal presidency' concept -- that is a bona fide gem. Why doesn't some high-profile national publication have you on staff cranking out fine, lucid commentary like this? (Could be, I suppose, that none of them are up to your level.) And those darned kittens -- they are adorable, aren't they? Man, I wish I’d come up with the ‘fractal presidency’ concept — that is a bona fide gem. Why doesn’t some high-profile national publication have you on staff cranking out fine, lucid commentary like this? (Could be, I suppose, that none of them are up to your level.)

And those darned kittens — they are adorable, aren’t they?

]]> by: Linkmeister http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4769 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4769 I kinda like the paper bag idea. Remember all the fans (well, attendees) at New Orleans Saints games who used to put bags on their heads? Pretty soon, if you've got an American passport you'll have to hide it in a brown paper bag like a wino with Muscatel as you go through Customs somewhere. I kinda like the paper bag idea. Remember all the fans (well, attendees) at New Orleans Saints games who used to put bags on their heads?

Pretty soon, if you’ve got an American passport you’ll have to hide it in a brown paper bag like a wino with Muscatel as you go through Customs somewhere.

]]> by: Notapipe http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4770 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4770 Because now is such a good time to be talking about torture chambers. Because now is such a good time to be talking about torture chambers.

]]> by: Dee http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4771 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4771 Adam, Adam, Adam -- it is futile to search for metaphor in a literal administration. There is no metaphor, there is no symbolism, because that would require some realization that the problems we face are complex and the answers are not always obvious. But this administration is simple and single-minded. Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice, all the way down to the clerks in the White House mailroom-- there is only one position, only one answer to any question, issue or problem. And it was expressed by our President simply, without any room for interpretation or nuance -- "You're either with us, or against us." Adam, Adam, Adam — it is futile to search for metaphor in a literal administration. There is no metaphor, there is no symbolism, because that would require some realization that the problems we face are complex and the answers are not always obvious.

But this administration is simple and single-minded. Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice, all the way down to the clerks in the White House mailroom– there is only one position, only one answer to any question, issue or problem. And it was expressed by our President simply, without any room for interpretation or nuance — “You’re either with us, or against us.”

]]> by: Rusty http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4772 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4772 Oh man! What a brilliant insight. Reminds me of the Goedel, Escher, Bach book. Self-referencing systems can't be mathematically proven, or something like that.... I can't claim I understood it all. Oh man! What a brilliant insight. Reminds me of the Goedel, Escher, Bach book. Self-referencing systems can’t be mathematically proven, or something like that…. I can’t claim I understood it all.

]]> by: Murray http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4773 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4773 Dee- Right on! Adam- Brilliant post, intelligent, insightful and therefore incomprehensible by most Americans. Oh well, at least we can appreciate it. Yes, this is an administration oblivious to the fact that its irony meter has been pegged from the start. And the public is just oblivious, period. BTW, given the photos and the reaction within the Arab world, I think that the war may have passed the point of no return. Certainly as long as this administration is in power. I can't see any good way out, other than declare victory and leave the country to civil war and anarchy. Not quite our goal in the first place. Lets see we went to war to: 1. get retaliation for 9/11, OK maybe that wasn't exactly right. 2. rid the country of those WMD that threatened us, OK that was wrong too. 3. rid the country of Sadam’s torture chambers, Hmm.. didn't quite work out as we wanted. 4. Give the Iraqis a stable free democratic government that would be the envy of every Arab state. OK that's not going to happen either, but at least Halliburton made a nice profit. Possibly if Kerry gets in and replaces the US with the UN a year from now it might not still be too late, but then again it may be. Dee- Right on!
Adam- Brilliant post, intelligent, insightful and therefore incomprehensible by most Americans. Oh well, at least we can appreciate it.
Yes, this is an administration oblivious to the fact that its irony meter has been pegged from the start. And the public is just oblivious, period.

BTW, given the photos and the reaction within the Arab world, I think that the war may have passed the point of no return. Certainly as long as this administration is in power. I can’t see any good way out, other than declare victory and leave the country to civil war and anarchy. Not quite our goal in the first place.

Lets see we went to war to:
1. get retaliation for 9/11, OK maybe that wasn’t exactly right.
2. rid the country of those WMD that threatened us, OK that was wrong too.
3. rid the country of Sadam’s torture chambers,
Hmm.. didn’t quite work out as we wanted.
4. Give the Iraqis a stable free democratic government that would be the envy of every Arab state. OK that’s not going to happen either, but at least Halliburton made a nice profit.

Possibly if Kerry gets in and replaces the US with the UN a year from now it might not still be too late, but then again it may be.

]]> by: tess http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4774 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4774 Dee: you're right, but if we don't try to assign some sort of meaningful metaphor to explain the inexplicable, then many of us will have to lay our heads on railroad tracks and wait for the next train. this administration is a giant non-sequitor, and the fact that normally fiscally conservative republicans are supporting giant spending measures, the EPA is headed by people with industry ties, and the whole gov't is run like a giant atm for defense contractors just strikes me as whole-heartedly wrong. if we didn't try to assign some sort of motive to the idiocy, some giant grand scheme or conspiracy, and are forced to chalk it up to a series of generally greedy little moves that created this collosal mess, i'm afraid that we'll have more people dressed in rags on the streets of berkeley screaming at random passer-bys and drumming empty buckets on saturday nights. speaking of which, when are you visiting the bay area, adam? Dee:

you’re right, but if we don’t try to assign some sort of meaningful metaphor to explain the inexplicable, then many of us will have to lay our heads on railroad tracks and wait for the next train.

this administration is a giant non-sequitor, and the fact that normally fiscally conservative republicans are supporting giant spending measures, the EPA is headed by people with industry ties, and the whole gov’t is run like a giant atm for defense contractors just strikes me as whole-heartedly wrong. if we didn’t try to assign some sort of motive to the idiocy, some giant grand scheme or conspiracy, and are forced to chalk it up to a series of generally greedy little moves that created this collosal mess, i’m afraid that we’ll have more people dressed in rags on the streets of berkeley screaming at random passer-bys and drumming empty buckets on saturday nights.

speaking of which, when are you visiting the bay area, adam?

]]> by: Daniel Loftus http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4775 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/05/03/fractals-accomplished/#comment-4775 Which brings us 'round to a photo op begging to happen-John Kerry and kittens. Didn't I read somewhere he has a cat? Female maybe? You know where I'm going with this..... Which brings us ’round to a photo op begging to happen-John Kerry and kittens. Didn’t I read somewhere he has a cat? Female maybe? You know where I’m going with this…..

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