Comments on: Unsafe at Any Speed (or The Return of Darth Nader) http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/ America's favorite blog Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:24:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Rook http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4013 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4013 I don't think he's going to syphon off any liberal votes. Well, at least not as many as in 2000. However, I suspect he will syphon off a lot of Bush's votes this time. Consider them revolt votes. I don't think we need to worry. Oh, and if Buhs puts money into this campaign, good, it's lost money. I don’t think he’s going to syphon off any liberal votes. Well, at least not as many as in 2000. However, I suspect he will syphon off a lot of Bush’s votes this time. Consider them revolt votes. I don’t think we need to worry. Oh, and if Buhs puts money into this campaign, good, it’s lost money.

]]> by: Miel http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4014 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4014 We shouldn't just blame Nader--there is lots of blame to go around. We have to admit that Gore's campaign sucked. More than Nader, I blame the people who voted for Nader. I was apoplectic back then, admittedly, in my annoyance at Nader and the Greens for how deceptive and naive their claims were. But what drove me crazier was that people believed it. Also, I blame the fact that every high school history course stops before WWII for some reason--and so people have no idea what's gone on in the last 70 years. I guess those people could read a history book if they really wanted to, though. There are still people chanting the manra about there being 'no difference' between the two parties. Still! For that I blame parental negligence, heavy drug use and the faltering public school system. Finally, I blame the Democratic party for failing to make it clear to people how they were different from the Republicans; the State of Florida and many public officials there; the Supreme Court; the media and that witchdoctor I paid to do some magic ju ju to make sure Bush would lose. I'm not sure I accept the 'puppy' metaphor as stated. After all, one must go on even after the accidental puppy squash. A better metaphor would be someone who--for ideological reasons--turns their puppy into a vegetarian. When the first puppy dies, they proceed to adopt another puppy and put it through the same gruesome experiment. We shouldn’t just blame Nader–there is lots of blame to go around. We have to admit that Gore’s campaign sucked. More than Nader, I blame the people who voted for Nader. I was apoplectic back then, admittedly, in my annoyance at Nader and the Greens for how deceptive and naive their claims were. But what drove me crazier was that people believed it. Also, I blame the fact that every high school history course stops before WWII for some reason–and so people have no idea what’s gone on in the last 70 years. I guess those people could read a history book if they really wanted to, though.

There are still people chanting the manra about there being ‘no difference’ between the two parties. Still! For that I blame parental negligence, heavy drug use and the faltering public school system.

Finally, I blame the Democratic party for failing to make it clear to people how they were different from the Republicans; the State of Florida and many public officials there; the Supreme Court; the media and that witchdoctor I paid to do some magic ju ju to make sure Bush would lose.

I’m not sure I accept the ‘puppy’ metaphor as stated. After all, one must go on even after the accidental puppy squash. A better metaphor would be someone who–for ideological reasons–turns their puppy into a vegetarian. When the first puppy dies, they proceed to adopt another puppy and put it through the same gruesome experiment.

]]> by: Bryan http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4015 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4015 He's still trying to sell the "there's no difference between the parties" meme. Nader received over 70,000 votes in Florida in 2000. Given what has happened since, I wouldn't advise him to return to the "Sunshine State", his reception wouldn't be friendly. Having a "Don't blame me, I voted for Nader" sticker on your car invalidates your comprehensive insurance. He’s still trying to sell the “there’s no difference between the parties” meme.

Nader received over 70,000 votes in Florida in 2000. Given what has happened since, I wouldn’t advise him to return to the “Sunshine State”, his reception wouldn’t be friendly.

Having a “Don’t blame me, I voted for Nader” sticker on your car invalidates your comprehensive insurance.

]]> by: Linkmeister http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4016 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4016 Bryan, I assume it does the same for no-fault? Bryan, I assume it does the same for no-fault?

]]> by: Murray http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4017 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4017 The perfect is the enemy of the good. Or in this case what is thought to be the best is the friend (enabler) of the worst conceivable evil to descend upon the darkness of humanity since the beginning of time.... No wait, it's worse than that. No.. No.. it's FAR worse than that....I can't go on, even the thought of it is more than I can bear. I would guess that Nader gets fewer votes than Harold Stasson. The perfect is the enemy of the good.

Or in this case what is thought to be the best is the friend (enabler) of the worst conceivable evil to descend upon the darkness of humanity since the beginning of time…. No wait, it’s worse than that. No.. No.. it’s FAR worse than that….I can’t go on, even the thought of it is more than I can bear.

I would guess that Nader gets fewer votes than Harold Stasson.

]]> by: Spoon http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4018 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4018 Sorry to be the grammar Nazi, but ... Bush "[is] in seriously trouble come November" doesn't work. He's either seriously in trouble or in serious trouble. Or, he's in trouble. Seriously! Okay, whining over. Sorry to be the grammar Nazi, but …

Bush “[is] in seriously trouble come November” doesn’t work. He’s either seriously in trouble or in serious trouble. Or, he’s in trouble. Seriously!

Okay, whining over.

]]> by: Bob http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4019 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4019 Perhaps we can save some money by making a bumper sticker that both pro- and anti-Nader folks could use: "Vote for Nader? I think I'm gonna, Ralph!" I plan to remove the comma on mine. Perhaps we can save some money by making a bumper sticker that both pro- and anti-Nader folks could use:

“Vote for Nader? I think I’m gonna, Ralph!”

I plan to remove the comma on mine.

]]> by: BettieWheelie http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4020 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4020 What of Al Sharpton, Dennis Kucinich, Gary Coleman? (Oh, strike that last one.) I think Nader will siphon votes just like the rest of 'em, and it won't amount to much. Not even a small mound of beans, really. It is , after all, all about 'electability' and the voter seems to be driving home that theme, based on exit polls. Who should I vote for in the Dem Pres Primary in Utah (!) Tuesday? What of Al Sharpton, Dennis Kucinich, Gary Coleman? (Oh, strike that last one.) I think Nader will siphon votes just like the rest of ‘em, and it won’t amount to much. Not even a small mound of beans, really. It is , after all, all about ‘electability’ and the voter seems to be driving home that theme, based on exit polls.
Who should I vote for in the Dem Pres Primary in Utah (!) Tuesday?

]]> by: Kerry http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4021 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4021 I heard Ralph on the radio tonight saying that he would get Republican protest votes. Right. And the economy will grow us out of national debt. I heard Ralph on the radio tonight saying that he would get Republican protest votes. Right. And the economy will grow us out of national debt.

]]> by: Kerry http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4022 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://fanaticalapathy.com/2004/02/22/unsafe-at-any-speed-or-the-return-of-darth-nader/#comment-4022 Bettie, vote for Howard Dean if he's still on the ballot. After all, he's the one who dictated the discourse this campaign season. Bettie, vote for Howard Dean if he’s still on the ballot. After all, he’s the one who dictated the discourse this campaign season.

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