Okay, so you may remember way back on August 28th when I posited that trying to fight for the sanctity of the Ten Commandments while simultaneously supporting the campaign of Arnold “Governor Gang Bang” Schwarzenegger might “make some conservative heads explode.”
What I didn’t realize was the fact that explosions only occur when there’s sufficient mass or energy on the inside. Which brings me to Bill O’Reilly.
Despite my oft-stated (and oft-violated) rule against commenting on commentators, O’Reilly deserves a special mention for pulling off the aforementioned feat of moral gymnastics in his “Talking Points” essay, offering the two seemingly irreconcilable stances on two consecutive nights. [August 28th and August 29th, respectively.] Even though I disagree with Bill on just about everything, I have to take my hat off to him. And then promptly vomit into it.
But strange as this may sound, I only bring up the above as a means of getting at a much smaller, pettier point that’s been eating away at me all week. Yes, I’ve checked in with Bill O’Reilly a few too many times this week (three!), and it’s all because of what I happened to hear him say on Wednesday. Rather than try to sum up, I’ll quote directly. The gist of the rant was that if we don’t straighten up and fly right we’re all goin’ straight to hell. And then:
“Here’s an example. I went to a rock concert the other night, The Doors — not so great � and in front of me are two boys about nine and 11 years old, sitting next to their parents. In front of them is a guy who lights up a marijuana cigarette. The father says nothing. But the mother taps the guy on the shoulder and says will you please not smoke that in front of my kids.
The doper sneers at the woman, whereupon I, your humble correspondent, get involved. Thirty seconds later, after some friendly persuasion, the joint is on the floor.”
Now I don’t advocate smoking pot in front of kids, especially if you didn’t bring enough for everybody. I’m not even what anyone could accurately call a “doper,” assuming that anyone besides O’Reilly could still use that term with a straight face. And despite what such a controversial stance might do to my Presidential campaign, I’m prepared to come right out and say that I believe that sneering at mothers who are trying to protect their children is Wrong.
But for cryin’ out loud, it was a Doors concert.
O’Reilly has said he’s a huge fan of The Doors, even though he does not approve of the lifestyle and choices of the late lead singer/ songwriter Jim Morrison. [O’Reilly’s not big on the whole cognitive dissonance thing. When thoughts meet opposition inside his head, he just twitches violently and yells at somebody, and then he feels better.] And me, I’m not a huge fan of The Doors. I like their stuff okay, I guess. At their best they were a unique and passionate psychedelic rock band with a hard blues sound and occasionally brilliant lyrics. At their worst they sounded like a polka band trying to cover John Lee Hooker.
My point here is that O’Reilly went to see The Doors in concert (or rather, the remaining Doors with a young feller standing in for the guy with all the talent who drank himself to death three decades ago). And even a passing fan like myself knows that The Doors were all about drugs, the use of which Jim Morrison believed would help him comprehend the mythic archetypes that compose our collective… etc. Hell, Morrison even named the band after Aldous Huxley’s “The Doors of Perception,” which is Huxley’s first-hand account of a truly sensational mescaline trip. Morrison was fond of inciting the crowd and himself to perform what he liked to call “Dionysian acts,” and what the arresting officers generally liked to call “getting high and drunk and mooning the audience.”
I’m not condemning Morrison for that. It’s just a way of getting to my point: What was O’Reilly doing collaring some sad kid who was trying to join a party that ended thirty years ago when he should have been grabbing the parents in front of him in his clammy fists and yelling, “Why the hell would any parent bring their 9 and 11 year-old kids to a DOORS CONCERT!!??”
And I suppose neither the parents nor O’Reilly were fazed by the possibility that someone might end up having to explain to a 9 year-old the lyric “Father - yes son - I want to kill you / Mother I want to fuck you… kill kill kill kill kill kill.”
I realize that O’Reilly’s an extremely easy target, and that lambasting him is ground so well-trod that it’s been paved and assigned a route number. And I’m not even sure why this particular bit of idiocy bugs me so much. I just know that I’m prepared to say something I never thought I’d say about the concert given by those creaky ol’ Doors and their Morrison stand-in:
I wish I’d been there.





33 comments
natalie
August 30, 2003 at 7:40 am
1O’Reilly does make a valid point…I mean, I can’t even take my kids to strip clubs any more, what with all the nudity.
And don’t even get me started on the goings-on down on Christopher Street! Just believe me, that’s not the best place to be selling Girl Scout cookies.
When O’Reilly is picked up for another season I’m going to blame you personally - three times in one week is just enough to tip the scales, my friend.
Manuel
August 30, 2003 at 8:48 am
2What’S this “friendly persuasion” O’Reilly is talking about?
And what is worse for kids to see, someone enjoying a joint or a fight or threats of iolence or whateverhe was doing?
Landis
August 30, 2003 at 1:30 pm
3Since you brought up O’Reilly I feel the need to share this. I’ve always been a huge fan of comedy (who isn’t), and to me Al Franken is a very funny guy. But I haven’t bought any of his books (no real interest in major political bashing), until now. Wasn’t going to buy his latest either until the whole wonderful “dust up” with Fox and “O’Lie-ly”.
So I’m one of those guys that helped push up the release date and made it a #1 on Amazon well before it’s scheduled release date. I got it on Wednesday and finished it last night.
HILARIOUS! And all thanks to the guys at Fox. Thanks Fox.
Mean Tim
August 30, 2003 at 2:23 pm
4I never realized that he was actually screaming the words kill kill kill after the fuck you part…. I thought he was just screaming…
Pat R.
August 30, 2003 at 2:36 pm
5Why should the mother/father lyrics bother O’Reilly? I’m sure he’s into family values.
John Isbell
August 30, 2003 at 3:00 pm
6“What was O’Reilly doing collaring some sad kid who was trying to join a party that ended thirty years ago.”
He wasn’t. He didn’t. This never happened. Read it slowly, piece by piece.
ESP
August 30, 2003 at 3:31 pm
7I had to read the entire week of posts at one time. Have to tell you Adam….you had a GREAT week.
Okay, few questions. Did Jim Morrison write those lyrics???? Where were The Doors performing, and WHO in their right mind would actually buy tickets? How old is this O’Reilly guy and who the hell is he?
Love the UN post.
Again, Adam, great week of writing. Thanks for the chuckles;
adam
August 30, 2003 at 4:36 pm
8Okay, few questions. Did Jim Morrison write those lyrics???? Where were The Doors performing, and WHO in their right mind would actually buy tickets? How old is this O’Reilly guy and who the hell is he?
Amswers: Yes, it’s from the song “The End.” I don’t know, and I don’t know. O’Reilly is 50-something: He graduated high school in 1967, the same year that The Doors released their debut album (coincidentally, the same year that yours truly was born). As for who he is, well, all I can say, ESP, is that you are an extremely fortunate person. Follow the links in my post to learn more, but you may be happier NOT doing so.
Sharoney
August 30, 2003 at 5:19 pm
9And why shouldn’t a Mother take her precious children to see anything they want? Who are these bitter, disgruntled childhaters to deny them? Saying ‘no’ might lower their self-esteem!
And why should people have to give up a single thing just because they become parents? Especially if their kids are being granted their every whim? They have every right to bring wailing infants to midnight showings of R-rated movies, tantrumy 2-year-olds to five star restaurants, and hyperactive second graders to $50-a-seat ballet performances, where they can charm the surrounding dance lovers with their own charming interpretations of the performance in the aisles!
Those who begrudge parents their God-given entitlements are un-American and have no family values. Children Are Our Future.
Andrew
August 30, 2003 at 6:44 pm
10As a nitpick, not all of the original surviving Doors are playing in this current incarnation, only Krieger and Manzarek. Drummer John Densmore isn’t part of the tour. See: The Doors of the 21st Century and Densmore Tries to Close Doors.
Anonymous
August 30, 2003 at 8:46 pm
11“Amswers: Yes, it’s from the song ‘The End.’”
He did write “The End” but orriginally the end was just a seven minute song talking about the end, riding snakes, getting on blue busses and the like. It never had the whole oedipus complex stuff in it. He added that while in the middle of a performance at a Bar. The rest of the band didn’t know what he was doing but did their best to play along. The new version of the song ended up being like 12 minutes long and kind of disturbing. Its amazing what a handfull of LSD can do to music.
ESP
August 30, 2003 at 9:07 pm
12Thanks Adam. Thought I knew the Doors, guess not. Followed your links and have read the two rants from O”biley. Yes, I am indeed fortunate.
Now we have this image of the 50 something geezer intimidating some sad youngster. I saw his picture, he couldn’t intimidate my cat. Guys like that give the boomers a bad image.
I can call him a geez too since I am a card carrying geez myself.
Dee
August 30, 2003 at 10:13 pm
13“Cognitive dissonance” should be the official motto of the Republican party. After all, these are the folks who run around whining about big government but also want that governemnt to regulate what you read, what you worship and whom you sleep with. They are also the folks who complain about government spending, and have us involved in a war that (as of the moment I cut and paste) has cost us $71,540,240,246
Michael (in DC)
August 31, 2003 at 3:35 am
14My god. I’ve been laughing uncontrollably for 5 minutes, which I haven’t done since the last time I, uh, offended Bill O’Reilly…
I’ll never again hear “The End” without seeing the wonderfully weird sketch on SNL that Val Kilmer did right after playing Morrison in Oliver Stone’s boring Doors movie. It’s a “Behind the Music” that follows Jim into the afterlife, where he forms a band with Louis Armstrong, Jimi Hendrix, and god knows who else, but the band gets broken up when they’re all reincarnated, one as a sheep, one as a treestump, and Jim himself as a little girl. The piece climaxes with the little girl singing those lyrics from “The End.” It’s one of the most inspired, wacked out absurd things SNL ever did.
Keep it up Adam.
Hey, any feelers from Anshell?
Wendy
August 31, 2003 at 12:17 pm
15Good point, Adam. It’s like going to a nudist beach and asking people to put their clothes back on. What are they thinking??
lecteur fanatique
August 31, 2003 at 9:00 pm
16J’ai doute que M. O’Reilly aurait arrêté les deux garçons s’ils avaient bu, malgré le fait que l’alcool est plus dangereuse bien que la marijuana.
natalie
August 31, 2003 at 9:53 pm
17Good point, Lecteur.
Translation: O’Reilly is a menace to unsupervised children and a grade-A fucktard.
Nah, for real though - I agree that pot is far less dangerous than alcohol, but it’s social acceptance. Kind of like how I can walk up to a newsagent in Monmartre and buy a porn magazine depicting violent rape right along with my Newsweek and no one bats an eye, least of all the ten-year-old boys who are in the queue in front of me.
Social standards and acceptance are different everywhere, but I find it funny that a French person would be condemning alcohol. And I thought the Americans were uptight! :^)
lecteur fanatique
August 31, 2003 at 10:02 pm
18Je ne condamne pas l’alcool, je condamne l’hypocrisie.
Eva
September 1, 2003 at 2:11 pm
19OK O’Reily is really close to going off the edge…. I mean does anyone really BELIEVE that story!!?? I think he has some serious mental condition. I really think he is going to have a big fall that will be bigger than Bill Bennets gambling problem. (I can’t wait… What is that German word that means enjoying someone else’s suffering??????)
Landis
September 1, 2003 at 3:31 pm
20I believe it’s “schadenfreude”?
John Isbell
September 1, 2003 at 4:00 pm
21Yup.
Lecteur fanatique isn’t French, there’s grammar mistake in there (lf: dangereux, and put bien earlier). However, writing in French is a great way to moon Bush, and I recommend it. Je le recommande!
john isbell
September 1, 2003 at 4:01 pm
22a.
le conducteur
September 2, 2003 at 5:17 am
23Cette site est tres interresant, mais pourquoi l’anglais? Francaise: il est la plus belle langue du mode, n’est-ce pas?
le conducteur
September 2, 2003 at 5:34 am
24Je regret ma orthographie (mots mal?). Je ne suis pas francaise./// Les mots ne march pas— errors grammatique sur l’internet: zut alors!
Chicory
September 2, 2003 at 10:07 am
25I think “People are strange/When you’re even stranger” would be a better title. O’Reilly is one strange bird, or some such carbon based life form.
Ann
September 2, 2003 at 2:21 pm
26“‘What was O’Reilly doing collaring some sad kid who was trying to join a party that ended thirty years ago.’
He wasn’t. He didn’t. This never happened. Read it slowly, piece by piece.
Posted by John Isbell at August 30, 2003 03:00 PM”
John, can you clarify? I read O’Reilly’s article, but I just couldn’t read it slowly enough to see where he says this never happened.
John Isbell
September 2, 2003 at 2:50 pm
27That’s pretty funny, Ann.
OK, here’s my theory. The story is too perfect, like DeLay’s story about asking a French diplomat if he spoke German: the guy says “No”, and DeLay says “Thank you.” Yeah, we even have it on film.
In this case, O’Reilly perfectly enacts several key GOP/O’Reilly themes, in record time: he’s cool (he likes the Doors and still goes to rock concerts: unlikely, and where’s his family); he is a champion of helpless women and children (note that it’s the mom asking the druggie, not the dad: a bit unlikely); druggies bully the weak (the guy sneers at the mom: unlikely, the more so with the dad next to her, though elided by O’Reilly’s narrative); O’Reilly has to step in like Eastwood where other men are weak (the dad does f**k all and lets O’Reilly handle it: you think so?); O’Reilly’s incredible machismo converts the sneering druggie in 30 seconds (that one is going cheap, so buy now). Here’s O’Reilly’s macho moment: “The doper sneers at the woman, whereupon I, your humble correspondent, get involved. Thirty seconds later, after some friendly persuasion, the joint is on the floor.” I’ll add one I just spotted: they’re in front of O’Reilly, the druggie in front of them. So he stands up and harangues the guy over the intervening row? He’s going to punch him with his eight-foot arms? He’s going to climb over the seats if the guy doesn’t shape up and fly right? And the family magically parts so this weird guy can yell some for them? Play the entire alleged scene as if you’re filming it. Analyzing text is what I do.
Now, Ann, you’re welcome to believe that it all happened. I just add up the probabilities as I see them, and my belief that O’Reilly doesn’t mind faking it. I believe he doesn’t.
“But in this case,
It all took place,
Exactly as he said.
Exactly exactly exactly exactly
Exactly - as - he - said.”
The Mikado.
D’ailleurs, ce que le conducteur a dit. Vive la France!
Murray
September 2, 2003 at 4:38 pm
28Hey! don’t make me have to speak to you in Esperanto.
Chicory
September 3, 2003 at 12:02 pm
29John-
I told the story to my husband and he agrees with you- it never happened. Just way too improbable.
Adam-
What ever you may think of the Doors, Dave says they were really amazing in person. But, that was the original group
Ann
September 3, 2003 at 3:10 pm
30John–thanks for the persuasive analysis!
julia
September 3, 2003 at 3:31 pm
31I tend to agree with John - after seeing his performance with Al Franken, I think our highly moral friend has a chicken-hawk version of the wit of the stairs - perhaps the courage of the stairs?
I can see him fuming about some kid smoking pot for days until he came up with exactly the response he thinks he should have made.
I also know yuppies well enough to know that people who can afford the ridiculous prices they charge for concerts these days would have made short work of having a kid who smoked pot too close to their little angel expelled from the concert without the assistance of Bill OReilly (who is probably right now working on what he should have said to them).
Linda
September 5, 2003 at 9:17 pm
32John, you must be a literary critique: beautiful deconstruction of the incident! But I was laughing so hard, *especially* since I JUST finished Al Franken’s book, that I didn’t catch all the nuances of the scene–although it didn’t sound quite “right.” Not being a huge Doors fan, I couldn’t conceive of anyone bringing their kids to such a concert, but then again I can imagine that O’Leilly likes them because he has to be the author of the most turgid oral sex scene ever written–and I can’t imagine he was sober when he wrote it!
DONNA
January 22, 2006 at 12:01 pm
33Today, I resolve to go to blogs and just say hello… so, hello