[Longtime readers of this site know that I don’t spend much time commenting on commentators. To recap my reasons - there are plenty of people that do this quite well, and plenty of others who end up inside “Harry Potter and the Echo Chamber of Squabbles.” But every once in a while…]
Bush’s State of the Union uranium claim has has become big news, with the White House scrambling to assign blame, control damage and locate shiny objects with which to distract people. Further evidence is emerging that puts the blame squarely on the White House. My treasonous colleagues and I are sputtering with outrage. Congressional Democrats are clamoring for an investigation. The world is shocked, burning hailstones fall from the air, two-headed goats are being born by the dozen, and in New York’s harbor a single tear can be seen trailing down Lady Liberty’s cheek.
And the conservative media is… um, too busy to really think about. From the right wing, the message is “Hey, what’s that over there? Um, how can anyone think about such trivialities? It’s Bastille Day! Uh, leave a message at the tone! Beeeep. Are they gone yet?”
Let’s break down the response.
Response #1: One Thousand Neros Fiddle
The biggest dogs in the conservative kennel are opting to talk about other things (presumably waiting for the smaller dogs to come up with a remotely plausible spin).
- William Safire is dealing with it by by boldly taking on Harry Truman and his critics.
- Glenn “Rubber Stamp” Reynolds is emulating our President with his usual practice of passing on other people’s statements without any undue thought or analysis. Today’s hot topics are those rotten French, those lying liberals, and how great things are in Iraq. “Indeed.”
- Andrew Sullivan is spending the day riding some beloved hobby horses. Howell Raines is a prat. The BBC “hates the West.” George W. Bush is so very clever that he looks stupid to mortal men.
- James Lileks(who can be a lot of fun to read, by the way) is entertaining the troops with tales of going to the movies and blasting liberal pundits on small issues. To his credit, Lileks did deal with the Big Story on Friday, writing a long screed about how exaggerating is bad. If you scroll allllll the way down you’ll find that CBS exaggerated its knowledge of What Bush Knew in a web-only headline.
Response #2 - Blame Canada
Just down the right-pundit food-chain (and it’s a mighty precipitous drop - think blue whales and plankton), they’re bashing about in all directions with giant foam bats. Bush was right. Bush didn’t know. Bush didn’t know he was right. The whole thing doesn’t matter anyway.
- Steven den Beste of the “USS Clueless” still needs an editor the way Cousin It needed a barber, but the general gist over there is that Iraq was a nuclear threat and we really oughta be concentrating on taking out the rest of the Axis of Evil.
- Charles Johnson over at “Little Green Footballs” continues his bid for the world record in the category of “World’s Longest Meltdown.” To the extent that you can extract anything amid the froth besides his usual gentle plea to exterminate the Muslims before they exterminate us, there’s a quick entry about how British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw is standing by the British intelligence that Bush referenced in his speech. So the uranium thing DID happen, and if it didn’t it was because those lousy Brits misled the President.
- But the most popular and most bizarre conservative response is embodied by Tim Blair: “Who Cares?” Even if the President lied outright, it was only a part of the justification for war. Just a contributing factor. So only an unAmerican pedant would make a big deal out of it. Why dwell on it?
Someone remind me: Exactly how many American deaths did Bill Clinton’s lie about his sex life contribute to?





36 comments
t.a.
July 14, 2003 at 4:00 pm
1Someone remind me: Exactly how many American deaths did Bill Clinton’s lie about his sex life contribute to?
not enough. ken starr survived.
Keith Sader
July 14, 2003 at 5:28 pm
2Yes, but Clinton lied about something the conservatives couln’t get while they were in office - a blowjob
Murray
July 14, 2003 at 5:50 pm
3Bumper sticker- When Clinton lied, nobody died.
Oh remember the elephants mating for the Bushes?
In africa, the symbols of the Republicans screw eachother,
In America they screw the american public.
John Isbell
July 14, 2003 at 5:55 pm
4Fine post. This - “My treasonous colleagues and I are sputtering with outrage” - is the single best line I have read in this brouhaha, and it is only nine words.
A commenter at Calpundit did in fact recently blame Canada in a thread, and doggedly defend it, amid bemused hilarity. I maintain that crazy is not evenly distributed across the political spectrum (but then I’m partisan).
Bob
July 14, 2003 at 7:45 pm
5“When Clinton lied, nobody died.”
Excellent! If this isn’t on bumpers across the country by, oh, next Wednesday, heads are gonna roll. Figuratively, of course.
Landis
July 14, 2003 at 7:51 pm
6Adam, why not put one on the Fanny Store? Where’d it go BTW?
tim
July 14, 2003 at 8:57 pm
7I love Ari Fleischer saying that “Uraniumania” (insipid scandal name coined here!) is all a “bunch of bull”. What’s next? A pile of horse hockey? A load of poop? Monkey doody, perhaps? I’m glad Ari is leaving on such a high note, rhetorically speaking. As long as he’s leaving.
Kris Lofgren
July 14, 2003 at 10:03 pm
8“Heads are gonna roll”
And on Bastille Day no less!
Jono
July 14, 2003 at 10:29 pm
9Adam,
Your entire post rests on a trumped up claim that the uranium news is the biggest news of the week.
Since when is it the biggest news of the week ?
Just because you claim it is ?
Surely there are bigger issues than an investigation into the pre-war intelligence.
North Korea today announced that if trade vessels are intercepted, they would retaliate and named Washington, New York and Australia as targets.
Nothing to see there, right ?
bumper boy
July 14, 2003 at 10:39 pm
10Bumper stickers are now available at http://www.cafeshops.com/nobodydied.
All profits ($1 from each sticker) will be donated to the DNC.
fred nelson
July 14, 2003 at 11:25 pm
11comparisons with the clinton administrations’s policies regarding death are fatuous at best, misleading at worst. please do not forget that the lewinsky affair led to the direct and immediate death of gazillions of bill’s holy sperm, doomed to their horrible fate on a field of tasteful and subdued blue.
until the bush regime’s death toll hits the gazillion mark, please just remember, “every sperm is sacred”.
Bob
July 15, 2003 at 12:05 am
12Jono -
It was the Bushies, not Adam, who made Iraq a higher priority than North Korea. But Americans and their notoriously short attention spans can’t be expected to remember tha…oh, look, a squirrel!
Landis
July 15, 2003 at 1:28 am
13Squirrel? Where? I think I’m past the State of the Union lie just like Ari and Bush said I am. Move on, shall we?
I kinda like MoveOn.org personally. Especially with their new “Misleader” commercial.
Elemental
July 15, 2003 at 1:29 am
14Another Flawless Felberian posting.
To ease confusion on the subject I picked up my own personal copy of the Corruptican Party Dictionary, Neocon edition, and everything became crystal clear when I read the following entries:
Oral sex:
The very, very, very worst thing that a presidential office holder could possibly ever participate in. Really, we mean it.
Voting fraud, responsibility for the deaths of hundreds of American service people, abject, baldfaced lying about government activities, and contempt for the basic principles of accountability in public service — all from a presidential office holder and his handlers:
Hey, how dare you even suggest — wait — is that Elvis over there?
Anonymous
July 15, 2003 at 1:31 am
15“When Clinton lied, nobody died.”
Except for some poor bastards in Sudanese aspirin factories… but they don’t count.
SYM
July 15, 2003 at 5:11 am
16On the Blame Canada front, Slate just wrote that Canada’s own Globe and Mail was the paper that broke the ‘Niger document forged’ story on march 2003. So all of Bush’s problems are the fault of the Canadian media, which makes this Canadian very proud.
Shag from Brookline
July 15, 2003 at 7:34 am
17“DID YOU THINK THAT URANIUM CAME FROM URANUS?”
kriselda jarnsaxa
July 15, 2003 at 7:55 am
18I just wish that someone with a big audience would realize we already have the answer to what happened to the WMD and why we can’t find them.
TWICE now (7/10 and 7/14), Bush has pointed out that the intelligence he relied on in making his decision to invade Iraq is the very same” intelligence Clinton used when he bombed Iraq in order to destroy its WMD-making capabilities. (Except, of course, conservatives thought he was doing it to distract everyone from the Clenis™)
If Clinton’s intelligence was right, well, then, that’s what happened to the WMD! They were ALREADY DESTROYED! Oh, and note that Rumsfeld even backed up “we used 5-year-old intelligence” the other day when he pointed out that we didn’t invade Iraq because of any “new intelligence”, but because of old intelligence seen in a “dramatic new light” because of 9/11.
Now, obviously, I don’t know if that’s actually what happened or not, but given their statements, and the fact that Clinton DID bomb them, it’s at least as plausible as any other excuse we’ve heard, eh?
Mark Bialkowski
July 15, 2003 at 8:13 am
19A more accurate slogan would be “When Clinton lied, fewer died!”
Someone already noted the poor Sudanese security guard who happened to be working the night Clinton lobbed cruise missiles into Afghanistan and Sudan. I think some people who might have been al Qaeda members got smoked in Afghanistan, but the real fallout in Sudan may have gone unnoticed. The al Shifa plant produced a significant amount of pharmaceuticals cheap enough for most Sudanese to purchase, and the intelligence on its al Qaeda past can be described as “pretty damn sketchy”.
Strange side note I recall from soon after Sept. 11–supposedly, the Taliban were in talks with Washington, prior to the 1998 embassy bombings, to extradite Mr. bin Laden for his connection to Khobar Towers and that Omar Abdel Rahman guy currently cooling his heels in a federal pen for the 1993 WTC bombing. After the cruise missile strike (according to the story, which I should dig up), Taliban leaders broke off contact.
Oops.
Still, Clinton just came across to me as careless and desperate to look tough-yet-compassionate. Bush looks and sounds malicious and bloodthirsty. No, check that–Bush looks and sounds so self-righteous, it hurts. And kills.
Ah, screw it. When presidents lie, people die!
Mark
July 15, 2003 at 8:46 am
20I thought the line went:
“When Clinton lied, Hillary cried.
When Bush lied, soldiers died.”
But, please Adam, bring back the funny. We already know conservatives are grasping straws and the media is underreporting the extent of the deception (intel said aluminum tubes most likely have nothing to do with nukes (aluminum tubes being the only thing other than yellowcake that was offered as proof of nuclear intent in Bush’s SOTU address), Iraq-Al Qaida evidence was essentially nothing, Rumsfeld told Congress days ago that there was no new WMD evidence in the first place (!!!), etc.). We know this. We want satire.
Ian Osmond
July 15, 2003 at 8:51 am
21“When Clinton lied, nobody died.”
Except for some poor bastards in Sudanese aspirin factories… but they don’t count.
Much as I hate to say it . . . at least THEY had a plausible connection to a terror network, given that the Sudanese aspirin factory was owned by Osama bin Laden.
I still think that Clinton had insufficient evidence to mount that operation. But, y’know, he still was doing better than Bush has been.
ChrisL
July 15, 2003 at 9:41 am
22I think the president’s notorious speech should be known, from now on, as The State of the Uranium speech.
Tim
July 15, 2003 at 11:10 am
23Adam, you’ve linked to the wrong Australian “Tim”. You’ve linked to the smarter, better-looking one who leans slightly more left than Mr Blair. Slightly in the sense that Christopher Hitchens is a slightly bigger drinker than Mohammad Khatami.
adam
July 15, 2003 at 12:09 pm
24Oops indeed. Thanks Tim, and that’s a fine site you’ve got yerself there, mate.
See, I was reading Tim Blair’s piping-fresh poison, followed a link to your site, and ended up grabbing the wrong URL. My apologies if anyone’s protesting outside your house at this very moment. [Might not be a bad thing, though. We liberals protest naked these days…]
Tim
July 15, 2003 at 1:20 pm
25No problem, Adam, and thanks - I figured that’s what happened. And just to prove I did not overstate myself in the comparison, seems the other Tim now has button envy. Well, I must admit, mine is pretty big.
t.a.
July 15, 2003 at 2:29 pm
26sudan had nothing to do with lewinski, which is what clinton’s lies were about. how did these 2 things get glommed together? clinton was almost run for office for lies about cheating on his wife. totally reprehensible, of course, but not even in the same ballpark as lying in order to start a war that has already killed thousands and will help bankrupt this country. not even close.
John Isbell
July 15, 2003 at 3:06 pm
27The Corruptican Party. I’ll be borrowing that, TVM. I also have my eye on “The State of the Uranium Address.” Oh look - it’s gone.
See what happens when you leave these things out in the open like that?
Kriselda Jarnsaxa
July 16, 2003 at 12:24 am
28Some connect the bombing runs Clinton ordered to the Lewinski affair because they claimed at the time that the only reason he was bombing anyone was to distract people from the whole sex thing. As such you get the theory that “because Clinton lied about having oral sex with Monica Lewinski, he decided he had to bomb a Sudanese aspirin factory and Iraq to keep people from paying attention to the fact that he liked about having oral sex with Monica Lewinski” - ergo, the people in the factory and in Iraq died because of his lies.
I think our inability to find any WMD shows that his bombing of Iraq, at least, had a bit more substance to it than just distraction, but I don’t know enough about the rest to really have an opinion on it.
Jon H
July 16, 2003 at 1:01 am
29mark writes:
“I thought the line went:
‘When Clinton lied, Hillary cried.
When Bush lied, soldiers died.’”
But it’s not just soldiers who died.
Bob
July 16, 2003 at 11:38 am
30If Clinton’s bombing of a pharmaceutical factory can be tied to Monica Lewinsky, then Bush’s State of the Union claims about Niger and uranium can be tied to…Kevin Bacon. Really. I’ve seen the documents.
Murray
July 16, 2003 at 12:52 pm
31Speaking of lies, any one remember Willie Horton, The pledge of Allegiance, ACLU, Boston Harbor?
How about pardoning all his co-conspirators who would have implicated him in Iran Contra?
Ancient history but it seems to run in the family.
What about saying that Al Gore wasn’t moral enough to be president while denying that he had been arrested for drunk driving? What about decrying the insider selling of stock in Enron while having done the same with Harkin? What about “landing his plane on an aircraft carrier” to hide his being AWOL from the National Guard, his escape from Viet Nam which he thought others should fight?
Any one remember his pledge to Education? fixing social security? Medicare? Prescription drug costs?
What would happen if a DEMOCRAT called this president a “pathological liar”?
xian
July 17, 2003 at 6:00 am
32… or “a good liar - unusually good.”
Scott
July 17, 2003 at 10:23 pm
33My contribution for bumper sticker:
“When Clinton was in charge things were going so smoothly he had time to seduce an intern”
Eric M
July 18, 2003 at 8:54 pm
34I agree that Clinton’s actions were just as bad. But so what? I don’t care what happens to Clinton now, I’m a Democrat but I’m not personally invested in his legacy. Yeah, he was a liar too. They both lied. Impeach Cheney.
Dave
July 23, 2003 at 4:11 pm
35I think you all need to grow up… Clinton was a serial liar, serial rapist and all around immature, untrustworthy thug who had SO many scandals going on at all times it was hard to keep them straight..
Lets not forget that Lewinsky was the tip of the iceberg and there were CRIMINAL activities going on at all times.. the least of which was selling our national security to the chinese for campaign dollars..!!
George Bush WON the election and you libs can’t get over it… He is a Godly, principled man with no adulterous affairs to cover up… so I guess the Aspirin factories are safe…!!
If you would just remember these facts, you would all be better off…
1. Lower taxes benefit EVERYONE.. Less taxes = more money in OUR pockets which in turn brings in MORE money to the government.. Weird huh?
2. The RICH pay more in so they get more back… Get over it..
3. The election process works.. there is NO SUCH thing as a POPULAR vote..!
4. Democrats steal elections, Conservatives play fair.
5. Enron, Worldcom, and Global Crossing are DEMOCRATIC scandals, thats why they disappeared so quickly..
6. If Monica had swallowed, the Dems may have won
7. Hilary must NEVER be president.. SHe is a criminal, possible even worse than Bill
Tuxedo Slack
July 24, 2003 at 6:51 pm
36Dave’s “contribution” makes me think of a recent post by the Mighty Reason Man:
Have a nice life, Dave.